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[15:44:26] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> @Stewards just a quick question to you guys - is it possible if you could grant temporary bureaucrat permissions to my bot (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/User:RothaugAutomations) ?
[15:45:26] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> Asking because the bot itself doesn't meet the requirements currently and would like to attempt a trial of a feature and it requires bureaucrat permissions to continue
[15:45:54] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> hence the temporary permissions
[15:52:54] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Yes, stewards can give a user permission to give bots account crat right.
[15:53:34] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> can i add it the crat right for 3 days then? i am asking you guys as it does not meet the 10 edits and 4 admin days requirement
[15:55:34] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> @savageszym : bots need crat's privileges?
[15:55:35] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> If you thought I'be happily adding crat's privileges temporary for 1 year. 🙂
[15:55:49] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> @savageszym : why bots need crat's privileges?
[15:55:49] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> If you thought I'be happily adding crat's privileges temporary for 1 year. 🙂 (edited)
[15:56:08] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> For how long do you think you need it for?
[15:56:09] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> I can give it to you for three days. If I do it then there won't be any questions about whether you have permission.
[15:56:26] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> yes i only need 3 days
[15:56:31] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> not more
[15:56:36] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> Ok I done
[16:01:51] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> @savageszym : done, temporary crat's privileges expire on 16:00, 10 January 2025 (GMT). 🙂 (edited)
[16:02:33] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> @savageszym : done, temporary crat's privileges expire on 16:00, 10 January 2025 (UTC). 🙂 (edited)
[16:03:18] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Hmm, nice that you did but leave that to me or another steward from now on please.
[16:04:16] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> This makes it clear to everyone that a steward has given permission.
[16:04:45] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> yeah i support this
[16:04:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> it would leave it in the logs that a steward gave the permissions
[16:05:00] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> for those who don't use discord
[16:08:15] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Okay, I am going to withdraw the right temporarily and allow it again.
[16:09:11] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> no worries
[16:09:38] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> A bot permissions page needs to be created on TestWiki and Stewards can already able to add crat's privileges to the bot account upon user request.
[16:10:07] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> Strong support
[16:10:25] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> **personally** i believe all bot flags should be reviewed by stewards as a whole
[16:14:36] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> A bot permissions page needs to be created on TestWiki and Stewards can already able to add crat's privileges to the bot account upon user request. ((Other bureaucrats can only add crat's privileges to the bot account if one of the 4 stewards allows them to do so.) (edited)
[16:14:45] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> A bot permissions page needs to be created on TestWiki and Stewards can already able to add crat's privileges to the bot account upon user request. (Other bureaucrats can only add crat's privileges to the bot account if one of the 4 stewards allows them to do so.) (edited)
[16:14:59] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> Rementioned
[16:19:00] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Granted for three days
[16:19:21] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> thank you! :)
[16:31:08] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Indeed
[16:33:34] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Always leave the awarding to a steward. This also avoids questions about whether a steward gave permission.
[16:35:52] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Always leave the granting to a steward. This also avoids questions about whether a steward gave permission. (edited)
[16:40:11] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> ~~Indeed~~ (edited)
[16:40:24] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Now bot flagen in its entirety I think is excessive and not necessarily necessary that all bureaucrats can do.  But giving bot crat rights is something that should always be left to a steward
[16:40:35] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Now bot flags in its entirety I think is excessive and not necessarily necessary that all bureaucrats can do.  But giving bot crat rights is something that should always be left to a steward (edited)
[16:41:22] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Now bot flags in its entirety I think is excessive and not necessarily, all bureaucrats can do.  But giving bot crat rights is something that should always be left to a steward (edited)
[16:42:48] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Now leaving bot flags only to stewards I think is excessive and not necessarily necessary that all bureaucrats can do.  But giving bot crat rights is something that should always be left to a steward (edited)
[16:42:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> ~~Always leave the granting to a steward. This also avoids questions about whether a steward gave permission.~~ (edited)
[16:44:52] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Now I think it is excessive to leave bot flags only to stewards and not necessarily necessary, all burocrats can and should just do that as far as I am concerned.  But giving botcrats rights is something that should always be left to a steward. (edited)
[16:46:29] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> @savageszym "Sorry for the ambiguity, I hadn't quite understood the sentence. 😅
[16:46:58] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> I understand English isn’t your main language
[16:47:00] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> Don’t worry!
[16:47:49] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> That's true, and that sometimes makes it difficult to express yourself properly. 😅
[16:48:53] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> That is true and that sometimes makes it difficult to tell you what you mean.  😅 (edited)
[16:50:29] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Now I think it is excessive to leave bot flags only to stewards and not necessarily necessary, all burocrats can and should just do that as far as I am concerned.  But giving bot crats rights is something that should always be left to a steward. (edited)
[17:05:33] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> Drummingman’s english is actually very impressive for not being a native speaker
[17:14:59] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Thanks.
[17:17:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <firstnoelle19> Just curious, what is the help ping role?
[17:40:21] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> Yeah I can agree
[17:54:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> @Stewards :
[17:54:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> I created a bot approval page for bot requests.
[17:54:58] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> Please see the permission page here-:
[17:54:59] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> Any concern please mention you're concerns here.
[17:55:00] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Test_Wiki:Bots/Requests_for_approval
[18:05:51] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <drummingman> Seems fine to me. but, English is not my native language, 😇 maybe I am missing some grammatical sentences? 😅
[18:08:22] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <bhairava7> No, you're English is very fine for me, you're english is valuable for Test Wiki as well 😊, But my english is roughly not perfect that are not easy to understand.. 🤭
[18:48:01] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> For users who need help verifying with @Wiki-Bot
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