[00:26:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <justarandomamerican> quite honestly the former was my approach
[00:27:07] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <justarandomamerican> quite honestly the former is going to be my approach (edited)
[00:31:18] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> I plan on writing up a series of proposals tomorrow to allow the community to weigh in on the future handling of this situation
[00:47:23] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> Created
[01:21:47] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> I was gonna write it but if you want to that's fine I don't have the energy to do so TBH as my energy on the Piccadilly Matter is Burnt out
[01:23:13] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> If a proposal of a appeal time of 1 year comes I'll definitely be interested
[01:26:51] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> Already written
[01:27:48] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> 👍
[01:39:12] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> I 100% support the Proposal
[01:40:08] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> the ideal approach remains one where there is demonstration of change via another community's evidence or demonstrable work to avert the condition, because it's an ongoing thing for several years now across several platforms
[01:40:15] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> until then no appeal should be humored
[01:40:40] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> Radiarr I don't see nether one of those happening anytime soon
[01:40:57] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> as long as stewards are measuring by that yardstick and not simple time passed, the "Community appeal only" proposal is reasonable
[01:41:34] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> The issue is the impulsiveness of the user
[01:41:35] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> I don't see it but I won't rule it out, it's just that I'd have to literally see it to believe it and at this point anyone else reasonable ought to take a similar position and not hope for a miracle
[11:28:08] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> @justarandomamerican visualeditor on desktop broke again
[11:28:09] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120379200893890762/1328687092108099616/image.png?ex=67879bc8&is=67864a48&hm=2bc409dc6857ed7dd5a788c904c325032b02558c18170bd2404bc1336f6d7c11&
[11:31:46] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> vote casted
[11:45:25] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> FYI it is a little confusing
[11:45:32] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> there are two separate proposals
[11:45:56] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <savageszym> eh i've seen lots of votes outside of test wiki with multiple outcomes in one thread
[14:25:25] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> two props isn't messy, but the second proposal is messy in how it's written
[14:39:23] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <globe_x> If theres anything I can clarify you’re welcome to ask  specific questions
[14:41:11] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> I think the second proposal structurally could use rewriting to avoid confusion
[14:41:20] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> however I have a lot to write today so if I do that it will be on a whim
[15:50:25] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> radiarr writing a bunch of essays
[20:06:37] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> today mostly involves RfC work in fact
[20:17:06] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <codenamenoreste> every community portal archive starting with 13 should have a new section starting at the beginning of a new year and end when it is the end of the year (e.g. 2025 to 2026)
[20:31:41] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <cocopuff2018> Were at?
[20:43:07] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> see meta changes, mainly the future/commitments one
[20:43:52] <TestWikiRelay>	 [discord] <raidarr> new archives should be based on archive contents, not necessarily metrics like date just for cosmetic purposes