[06:23:53] [discord] Welcome gotta go [06:23:58] [discord] Welcomer gotta go [15:42:54] [discord] Test94944 is importing large number of pages without any valid reason [15:46:18] [discord] @Steward I have blocked the user, as they were importing large number of pages from enwiki. Import tool may be tested but limited to a few and select pages. Just pinging y'all to let you know [15:47:45] [02mediawiki] 07younginspiration commented on pull request #57: Justa has no objections. Will let MacFan merge this 13https://github.com/Test-Wiki/mediawiki/pull/57#issuecomment-3448643370 [15:53:30] [discord] Looking [15:54:16] [discord] imo i think they should've warned about it as a comment in RfP [15:54:42] [discord] They have posted on their talk page, that they were testing a bot script for enwiki. I have asked them to elaborate the purpose of the script, and link their enwiki account here [15:55:57] [discord] That could have been done, to distinguish themselves from an actual troll. However if they are actually legitimate, then I have no objection in overturning the block. [15:56:37] [discord] That's a lot of pages,😅 good thing you blocked it.... I wonder if it's a real person and not a bot/troll? [15:56:38] [discord] . [15:59:09] [discord] Strange... [15:59:17] [discord] Looks like they are legitimate https://discordapp.com/channels/1120379200428326912/1138926103252189335/1432035100241170503 [15:59:31] [discord] I have no objection in overturning the block, and reinstating the rights [16:00:01] [discord] I see that the account has been around for a while... [16:00:30] [discord] now that i think about it, to prevent instances like these, i think the comments field should be mandatory [16:01:02] [discord] They have given what seems to be a confirmation [16:01:25] [discord] I would be fine with unblocking as long as they clean up after themselves [16:02:21] [discord] Although I agree that they should have mentioned that before they started doing the edits [16:05:33] [discord] YO YO [16:05:39] [discord] Well, it seems to me more like testing with Wikipedia articles, although that can be very confusing if you import so many pages, and there are also potential copyright issues. [16:06:00] [discord] USER94944 DID THE SAME THING BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR [16:06:20] [discord] SO THIS WASN'T THE FIRST TIME [16:06:41] [discord] WHY THE USE OF CAPS? [16:06:51] [discord] I see. [16:07:09] [discord] https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:DeletedContributions/Test94944&target=Test94944&dir=prev [16:07:13] [discord] But I would be fine with perhaps lifting the block, after all they have been around for quite some time [16:09:36] [discord] Should I unblock him and tell him that, to avoid future confusion, he may only perform such actions with a bot account and only with the permission of the community or a steward? [16:09:51] [discord] I agree. They seem legit [16:10:58] [discord] Yes, that sounds good [16:11:15] [discord] Okay. [16:11:27] [discord] I recognize them from Wikipedia so I do know that they are previously [16:11:39] [discord] I recognize them from Wikipedia so I do know that they are serious [16:16:04] [discord] Done [16:26:48] [discord] Using the word “permission” might be too restrictive. As long as a bot does not place significant strain on the server, users should not be required to seek approval from the community or a steward for routine, non-controversial edits or actions. If the bot consumes excessive system resources, a system administrator can intervene and block it. However, if its actions involve more sensitive operations, such as [16:26:48] [discord] In this case, the user is merely creating pages, which I agree is better done through a bot account, but not something that requires formal community approval. [16:28:04] [discord] Hmmm I, see [16:31:33] [discord] Okay, I said it more to avoid confusion. But it could also just be communicated on the community portal, by saying: “I'm going to import this many pages...” Anyway, I said it more to prevent these kinds of blockages in the future. [16:31:33] [discord] @testinggames What do you think? [16:33:01] [discord] I say it twice. I see now. 😅 [16:33:13] [discord] Your wording "may only perform" expresses that users are restricted to perform such actions unless they have been provided with an explicit consent of the community or steward. You should reword it to something like "you should inform at TW:CP so to make sure no one think you are the bad guy, and your actions are legit" [16:34:06] [discord] Also you have unblocked them, but ig you forgot to reassign the sysop bit [16:35:56] [discord] I am still in the process of completing the unblocking process. [16:36:29] [discord] I'll take your points. [16:48:11] [discord] All done [16:51:16] [discord] English is not my native language, so I have to think carefully about what I say and how I say it. That's why it takes me a little longer. [16:52:35] [discord] No worries! It's not my native language and sometimes it takes me a bit of time as well 🙂 [16:53:20] [discord] (Same, since it's not mine either) [16:58:35] [discord] He's starting again, he's announced it, but with his own account, not with a bot, so... shall we allow that? [17:06:10] [discord] i guess so [17:06:32] [discord] though posting a message, to tell assign a bot bit would be good advice [17:06:55] [discord] and saying preferring another account distinguishable as a bot account would be much better [17:12:45] [discord] I have temporarily added a bot to his account to prevent the recent changes from flooding the feed. [17:17:49] [discord] But apparently it doesn't really help; I still see recent changes appearing. [17:19:16] [discord] Perhaps to prevent the enormous nuc feed that is coming? @testinggames [17:20:14] [discord] Do you know why that bot flag doesn't help? [17:28:02] [discord] I have noticed that the bot flag prevents edits from appearing in the RC, just not on Discord [17:28:21] [discord] Discord tracks all edits [17:28:28] [discord] if not most [17:29:25] [discord] https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&translations=filter&limit=500&days=30&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 [17:29:58] [discord] That doesn't matter in this case. [17:30:01] [discord] Also, I no longer get notified about #wiki-feed posts anymore [17:30:10] [discord] This is a "my fault" thing [17:30:41] [discord] Because I want notifications for actual posts, not those of the RC channel [17:31:11] [discord] Discord tracks all edits, especially bot ones [17:32:00] [discord] I go to and uncheck the box for #wiki-feed [17:32:16] [discord] So that instead of it appearing in the normal channels list [17:32:27] [discord] it appears as a suggested one instead [17:32:35] [discord] and it doesn't notify you [17:33:48] [discord] Are you referring to the RC on Test Wiki or #wiki-feed? [17:34:33] [discord] It is also not my native language [17:37:35] [discord] Test94944 is still going at it [17:38:02] [discord] But IIRC, they promised to nuke all of those pages they created [19:29:27] [discord] They nuked them all [19:30:33] [discord] Good.