[08:45:08] <katpatuka>	 hi, is there another WD irc channel to discuss problems?
[08:47:38] <haansn08>	 whats wrong with this one?
[08:51:11] <katpatuka>	 haansn08: recently I asked a question but didn't get a reply for hours ;)
[08:51:37] <Lucas_WMDE>	 most people are in the Telegram group these days, but that’s not exactly another IRC channel ^^
[08:52:05] <katpatuka>	 yep - so I try it again...:
[08:52:46] <katpatuka>	 I'm mapping on osm and for 3 4 days I get a strange error msg from the validator
[08:52:59] <katpatuka>	 https://pasteboard.co/KfmOitv.jpg
[08:54:30] <katpatuka>	 for some tags - for example tag=town - I am told it were a member of subclass 'person' Q215627
[08:55:31] <haansn08>	 is it still a problem? I remember fixing it
[08:56:04] <katpatuka>	 and I have no idea WHERE to search this error - investigating mentioned Q-items I didn't find any connection
[08:56:29] <haansn08>	 you can create the talk page of the item with {{item_classification}} to see the subclass of hierachy
[08:56:29] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:item_classification
[08:58:16] <katpatuka>	 haansn08: what and how did you happen to fix?
[08:59:52] <haansn08>	 > katpatuka‎: See [[Talk:Q735428]]: town in China -> town ->  community -> social group -> group of humans -> human -> person
[08:59:52] <haansn08>	 > removed "group of humans -> human"
[08:59:53] <AsimovBot>	 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q735428
[09:03:30] <katpatuka>	 haansn08: hm - the screenshop given (a quarry) has landuse=quarry, resource=copper and name tags...
[09:12:22] <haansn08>	 katpatuka: i don't quite catch on... do you have a question?
[09:13:47] <katpatuka>	 well, the problem you had fixed happened with "town in China" - there was no such error for "township of China"
[09:14:21] <katpatuka>	 but now its a "quarry" - how could that connect to "person" ?
[09:15:48] <haansn08>	 whats the wikidata item?
[09:18:36] <katpatuka>	 haansn08: Q188040
[09:20:32] <Lucas_WMDE>	 hm, I don’t see anything especially strange in the parent class tree there https://w.wiki/3sUA
[09:26:17] <katpatuka>	 Lucas_WMDE: me too - the quarry's tags are here: https://pasteboard.co/Kfn387l.jpg
[09:26:34] <nikki>	 it does show up in https://w.wiki/3sUJ though
[09:27:20] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ah, via mining company ... operation ... organization -> group of humans -> human
[09:28:28] <katpatuka>	 oh lord! :D
[09:29:30] <Lucas_WMDE>	 tbh I’m skeptical of that group of humans -> human link
[09:29:41] <Lucas_WMDE>	 (though it might not be the only problem here)
[09:30:04] <katpatuka>	 how many others there may be... 
[09:30:11] <haansn08>	 i removed that a few days ago, if it's there again maybe my edit was undone
[09:30:40] <katpatuka>	 well I keep on mapping and will tell you if there are other tags with problems - thanks a lot! ;)
[09:30:43] <Lucas_WMDE>	 haansn08: yup, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q16334295&diff=1476748695&oldid=1476447806
[09:31:07] <Lucas_WMDE>	 (and since it was done as a restore instead of as an undo, you weren’t pinged)
[09:31:57] <nikki>	 it seems like the constraint is wrong if that's the "fix"
[09:35:23] <nikki>	 and I agree that group of humans as a subclass of human seems wrong, grouping humans together doesn't merge them into a single mega-person
[09:37:10] <nikki>	 there are of course some edge cases where something could be either, reality is weird like that, but for the most part it's either one or the other
[09:38:56] <nikki>	 (edge cases that come to mind: conjoined twins and people with DID)