[02:49:08] <Jarnsax>	 Oi, now down to deconvolving academic disciplines and what they study (which is mixed up a lot, apparently)
[02:52:13] <Jarnsax>	 the 'academic discipline' of civil engineering, and the 'branch of engineering' that it studies, are not the same thing.
[02:54:44] <Jarnsax>	 seems to matter more in social sciences ... French philology, etc.
[02:57:00] <Jarnsax>	 how many of them I looked at before coming across studies / studied by relationship (sigh)
[17:45:40] <Jarnsax>	 People seem to conflate 'of' and 'object has role' a lot.
[17:48:19] <Jarnsax>	 i.e. "Carleton University" has part "Sprott School of Business" object has role "business school" is, I think, correct
[17:49:44] <Jarnsax>	 as opposed to calling it business school "of" Carleton University
[17:56:06] <Jarnsax>	 or, gawd, seeing (don't have an example handy) had seen something like "Master of Science in Engineering" as subclass of "Master of Science" "of" "Engineering"
[17:59:08] <Jarnsax>	 -> "Master of Science in Engineering" instance of "Master of Science" field of work "engineering" is more like it.
[18:54:29] <nikki>	 Jarnsax: lucas has a whole page about the "of" qualifier - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister/P642_considered_harmful :)
[18:56:31] <Jarnsax>	 nikki, I'd never seen that, but pretty much any time I see it I try to find a better was to state the claim.
[18:56:41] <Jarnsax>	 er, way
[18:59:10] <nikki>	 yeah, I don't like it either, it's not really structured data if the meaning depends on the exact context
[19:00:13] <Jarnsax>	 people also seem to mix up "located in the administrative territorial entity", "headquarters location", and "location"...took me a while to (I think) figure it out.
[19:00:57] <Jarnsax>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q101009402 <- seems to be what it intended
[19:01:16] <Jarnsax>	 er, is...
[19:02:00] <Jarnsax>	 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108384785
[19:02:39] <Jarnsax>	 which involved, lol, deconvolving Carleton University and it's campus
[19:08:41] <Jarnsax>	 nikki, right.. I think of it as the WD version of 'atomicity' (as in first normal form)...claims shouldn't be contextual, they need to be self-explanatory
[19:09:27] <Jarnsax>	 any time I break that I end up figuring out that what I've claimed doesn't really 'make sense'
[19:56:37] <Jarnsax>	 https://pasteboard.co/KiMEN98.png <- this is what I think people often mean when they can't come up with anything better than 'of'
[19:57:55] <Jarnsax>	 https://pasteboard.co/KiMFCKG.png <- from the other direction
[19:58:07] <Jarnsax>	 nikki, ^
[21:42:34] <Jarnsax>	 (sigh) a "library building" is not an 'instance of' "building" 'of" "library", either
[21:43:29] <Jarnsax>	 (occupant -> library)
[21:43:56] <Jarnsax>	 er, or used by
[21:44:41] <Jarnsax>	 yeah, that's transitive with propertiex on library that make sense