[00:31:58] Hey idk wtf this even is lol [00:32:37] tis an irc channel [02:44:18] Does anyone know what the deal with https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Kea_industry&offset=&limit=500&target=Kea+industry is? It might just be spam based on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q107258925 but I don't know what the languages ewo/bkm/bax are (and even if I try to decode the mojibake, I can't tell if it's actually valid stuff) [03:20:30] hopefully this is right before I do it a dozen more times... https://pasteboard.co/KiPz5bo.png [04:51:59] somebody (presumably User:Mr.VaiBH) is trying to hijack Q64005700 again: [04:51:59] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q64005700&type=revision&diff=1491626347&oldid=1482965576 [05:10:49] hmm.. I think "gender neutral form of label" should be a thing.... [05:12:28] something like "university president"... non-gendered in english, but gendered in french, german, etc., and the concept doesn't have any kind of 'native language'. What i've been about to figure out is just use 'name', but I don't think that's really correct. [05:33:26] There's https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P3321 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2521 [05:34:27] right, I've used those for french and german (and there are surely others) [05:35:11] pokechu22, think chairman, chairwoman, chairperson [05:35:45] as a totally random example [05:36:32] Right, makes sense, and I'm not aware of a way of modeling that [05:37:07] yeah, seems like it needs to be a new thing to me [05:38:39] just please don't extend it to things like invented forms for non-binary genders [06:20:11] Le sigh. Why did whoever imported "instance of Wikimedia category" feel the need to source those claims to whatever wikipedia it's on? [06:20:21] It's silly [06:23:00] lol, 'instance of values where these are obvious to most humans looking at the item' says it well [06:25:56] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q65626482 <- nothing there needs a source, bot (lol) [14:29:19] Hi, any sysop or OS right here? [14:29:58] !admin@wikidata [14:30:08] please pm me if you can, thanks. [14:30:25] ok [15:19:43] Hello, I added a Wikidata entry today and another user has requested to delete it. How do I appeal this deletion request? !admin@wikidata [15:21:47] Guest54, can you share a link of entry? [15:22:13] Sure thing. Here you go: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108394059 [15:25:41] i dont see why it should be kept, doesn't satisfy our notibility policy [[WD:N]] [15:25:43] 10[1] 1010https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability - Redirección desde 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:N?redirect=no [17:54:08] once a vandal starts making threats in their edit summaries, does that earn them a block? [17:54:38] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/194.87.235.174 [17:54:47] !admin@wikidata [18:02:45] Dragonfly6-7: blocked [18:03:18] very kind, thank you [18:03:55] np [18:20:40] hi there!! [18:20:52] i wonder if you guys could help me! [18:21:40] we can try [18:22:55] suppose I want to find out which articles do exist in many other languages but not on en-wiki (or de-wiki, or fr-wiki...) [18:23:21] database queries (i.e. SQL) [18:23:48] how can I do that??? [18:24:01] I know there's a tool called PetScan: https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ [18:24:22] https://query.wikidata.org/ [18:24:26] perhaps that tool could help? [18:25:10] https://query.wikidata.org/querybuilder/ <- that [18:25:55] Well, hmm... the builder won't let you COUNT(), so maybe not [18:28:59] https://query.wikidata.org/#%23title%3A%20Items%20about%20authors%20with%20a%20Wikispecies%20page%0ASELECT%20%3Fauthor%20%3FauthorLabel%20(COUNT(%3Fpaper)%20AS%20%3Fcount)%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%3Farticle%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fauthor%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AisPartOf%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Fspecies.wikimedia.org%2F%3E%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fauthor%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5.%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fpaper%20wdt%3AP50%20%3Fauthor.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Ala [18:28:59] bel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fauthor%20%3FauthorLabel%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC(%3Fcount)%0ALIMIT%20200 <- this example is where I would start [18:29:04] oh gawd [18:29:06] I'd like to have the LIST of articles with A LOT of versions in different languages but NOT on one particular language (this is, articles that most languages have but yours hasn't) [18:31:47] the example called "Items about authors with a Wikispecies page" on the query service page, the ORDER BY at the end will accomplish that, with something like WHERE has articles AND NOT specific language article [18:38:27] Mortadelo2005, PetScan lets you intersect, combine, etc, actual 'categories' (in the specific sense of existing pages in the "Category" namespace of the target wiki).... not really relevant to WikiData items, which are not 'pages' (in the sense of a text block of mediawiki markup) [18:39:44] ^ you don't put [[Category:XXX]] in the footer of the markup [18:41:29] oh.. sec [18:47:45] Mortadelo2005, might want to look at how I sorted https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2420458 <- specifically, P2521 and P3321 (female/male form of label), Q82799 (name, if the terms in various languages aren't gendered isn't gendered) and Q45025080 (native label, if the concept has some 'native language', think of the Pentagon or White House) [18:48:25] I'm assuming that you're going to find things that need merged (probably lots) with that kind of search [18:49:04] er, meant to grab properites not items.... meh [18:49:45] Jarnsax, thanks anyway!!! [18:59:36] randomly, something I have to keep in mind (that people seem to not get) is how 'part of' is different from 'classes', in that an engine is part of a car, but a car is still a car if you take the engine out. [20:05:08] Fun times to come, I think, trying to deconflate a lot of "degrees" with their 'degree programs', and the 'academic disciplines' that they study from the related 'fields of work' [20:06:31] (the 'academic discipline' of engineering studied by a college student would include context such as the history of the field, that isn't actually 'part of' engineering itself) [20:47:12] Mortadelo2005: There is something like that for footballers: [[Wikidata:WikiProject_Association_football/Wanted_footballers/en]] [20:47:13] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Association_football/Wanted_footballers/en [20:51:30] ooooh [20:52:01] I think he left [20:52:52] could probably ask the bot owner (pasleim) to produce another report [21:34:18] hopefully the intended distinction here is clear, lol. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108399454 [21:38:30] Good enough [21:41:45] Obnoxious that the job title is widely used for two different roles, one of which isn't a job [21:43:39] what I called 'university head' is sometimes called the president, and is it's head in the same sense that the Queen heads England, lol. [21:48:06] there are some items that discriminate between classes by 'order', but I haven't figure them out yet. [21:51:12] as in, every member of "university president" is an instance, so first order (it's a job), vs "university chief executive" is a role filled by various classes of job titles, so second order [21:54:51] WikiOntology, lol [21:57:39] or WikiMetaphysics [22:52:00] I keep trying to import thngs from Engrish Wikipedia, lol.