[03:11:02] hellp [18:08:07] Hi, I found duplicate entries: Q64743585 & Q102338658. Can someone merge those? [18:08:21] I had no idea how to tag it on Wikidata so I came here [18:10:20] dudek- there's a merge option [18:10:20] one moment [18:10:50] dudek - I think you have to activate an option in your preferences [18:11:20] yeah, confirmed [18:11:26] it's in Preferences: Gadgets [18:12:27] I see. Thanks! [18:13:01] dudek - merge the newer entry into the older entry [18:13:24] I think that's what I did [18:13:32] but u can check to be sure [18:13:51] user:Dudek ? [18:13:57] dudek1337 [18:15:31] ... honestly, I'm not sure if you did it right, sorry [18:15:34] let me check my own contribs [18:18:05] idk 64743585 is a lower number than 102338658 [18:18:14] so I'd hope that is older :D [19:54:57] am I doing this wrong, or are my only options when citing a book a) provide the name of the author, who is already the topic of a WD entry or b) omit the name of the author, who is not the topic of a WD entry? [20:26:01] Dragonfly6-7: You were asking about conflicting date of death info last night. You can just add two entries with references. I've seen that many times. It does show a single-best-value error (exclamation mark symbol thingy), but there are a *lot* of these: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P570#%22Single_value%22_violations [20:26:57] Dragonfly6-7: Regarding author name: P2093 is a thing. [20:47:39] thank you [20:47:42] "author name string", ew [20:50:09] JAA - doesn't seem to be working [20:51:53] Yeah, P2093 is only intended for cases where there is no item for the author. If there is, you'd need to enter it normally I think. [20:54:20] There is no item for the author. [20:54:30] There are items for identically-named people [20:54:33] but there is no item for the author [20:54:45] and P2093 does not seem to be working [20:55:19] I type in the name, and do not have the option to publish. [20:57:00] Oh, guess I misunderstood you then. You said that the author of the reference book 'is already the topic of a WD entry'. [20:57:43]

am I doing this wrong, or are my only options when citing a book a) provide the name of the author, who is already the topic of a WD entry or b) omit the name of the author, who is not the topic of a WD entry? [20:58:11] if the author is not a Wikidata item, have I any choice other than omitting the author's name. [20:58:22] Ah [20:58:26] Yeah, that's what P2093 is for. [20:58:41] Except it doesn't seem to be working. [20:59:40] i type "author name string" into the Property field, which autocompletes [20:59:54] I type the author's name into the... is it called a "value" field? [20:59:56] and [21:00:03] nothing happens [21:00:12] 'publish' remains grayed out. [21:00:45] so either I am doing something wrong, or something is wrong with Wikidata. [21:02:01] Hmm [21:02:09] Seems to be fine here, though I didn't try to actually publish. [21:02:24] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16003938 [21:02:35] date of death is referenced in the book "Salton Sea" by Karl Anderson. [21:02:57] There's a bit of a delay after I enter the value though, and sometimes I seem to need to defocus the author name string value field first. [21:03:00] (we originally had a different date, which was sourced to a database which sourced back to us) [21:03:10] 'defocus' ? [21:03:39] Click on an empty part of the page or on another text field. [21:03:59] So that the value field is no longer in focus, has a cursor, etc. [21:05:10] doing so [21:05:10] and [21:05:11] nothing. [21:05:50] what happens when you try to add that value to that field [21:06:35] Done, seems to work fine. [21:07:49] Computers, how do they work? :-) [21:07:51] Most perplexing [21:08:19] I did get the greyed out 'publish' a couple times on tests, at least for a few seconds while it ... checked the value I assume? [21:08:40] not parsing your statement [21:08:54] oh [21:09:04] yeah, but that shouldn't have taken several minutes. [21:09:28] No, certainly not. [21:10:09] I'm on a very shitty internet connection right now, and it was only a few seconds at most (probably whenever the connection was being weird again). [21:10:32] The focus/defocus explicitly triggers it to rerun the basic value plausibility checks again, I think? [21:10:48] Like that the field isn't empty or filled only with spaces for example. [21:11:40] Anyway, back to the item in question: if that incorrect date of death was on the item for a while and is already referenced elsewhere, it's probably a good idea to keep it on the item as a deprecated value and mark it as incorrect. [21:12:24] Looks like it was there for almost 3 years. [21:13:15] yeah, I mentioned it on the talk page a while back [21:15:24] If it doesn't let you publish then you probably forgot to fill in the language for the string. [21:15:30] The box for it may go away if you click elsewhere but it is still needed before you can publish. [21:15:50] it didn't offer me that option. It offered me the option to change alphabets. [21:15:52] markh: P2093 doesn't require a language though as far as I can tell. [21:16:01] Exactly. [21:16:13] Which makes sense since it's a name. [21:17:51] Hmm, yeah I guess author name string just a plain string. Maybe there was another missing field.