[19:10:06] hello all [19:11:30] I have a very small problem. I recently updated the article 'women's rights' on Simle English Wikipedia, to be actually about the rights and not the movement. And I wanted to update the corresponding wikidata item. [19:11:39] but can't because its semiprotected [19:14:07] eptalon you are already autoconfirmed on wikidata? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Eptalon [19:17:05] never mind, wasn't logged in... [19:17:38] eptalon okay - if you triggered any edit filters and want me to suppress things just send me a PM or email [19:19:13] DannyS712: [[simple:Women's rights movement]] is now unlinked (as it's diffwerent from Women's rights... [19:19:14] 10[1] 10https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_movement [19:23:22] eptalon it seems that on enwiki and maybe others they are the same page - you can always create a new item for the movement [19:24:13] DannyS712: could you? [19:24:39] give me a few minutes to deal with an OS thing and then I'll take a look [19:25:34] ok [19:30:56] eptalon actually is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q53028786 the same thing? [19:32:28] DannyS712: Likely, but haven't seen it capitalized like this. Idea is that women claim to have certain raights, and describing what these are today, what they were in the past. [19:33:12] Thats for Wonmen's rights. The movement is the social movement in society to push osciety to accept some of these... [19:35:49] the linked external id (https://finto.fi/yso/fi/page/p10578) says the English version of the concept is "women's rights movements" [19:38:55] En redirect the movement to women's rights. [19:39:33] yeah but if simple is going to have two different pages that seems to match what we have on the movement page [19:41:21] "Les droits des femmes sont des droits revendiqués pour les femmes dans de nombreuses sociétés à travers le monde, qui constituent la base du mouvement pour les droits des femmes du XIXe siècle ainsi que le combat des mouvements féministes depuis le XXe siècle.". And mouvements pour les droits des femmes redirects to feminisme... [19:42:45] I don't know French - I'm saying that https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q53028786 has an identifier, https://www.yso.fi/onto/yso/p10578, which says that the English-language (not English-wiki) version of that term is "women's rights movements" [19:43:55] I dont know the technicalities, enwp doesn't have two articles. [19:44:50] yeah, but I'm saying if we ignore enwiki entirely for a minute, it looks like there is already an item for "women's rights movement" that is separate from the item for "women's rights" [19:45:11] enwp: feminist movement? [19:45:42] [[:en:Feminist movement]] [19:45:42] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/:en:Feminist_movement [19:46:08] that could also work, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15580856 has no simple article at the moment [19:49:10] Added one [19:49:44] perfect - are we now in agreement? Everything is resolved? [19:50:30] yes,  think so. [19:50:45] sorry for the confusion, glad we got things worked out [19:50:46] thanks fpr helping... [19:50:49] no problem [19:51:15] In my book feminism and owmen's rights are different, but thats likely just me.