[01:02:38] Can someone reboot https://dibabel.toolforge.org/ ? If a simple reboot won't suffice, can I be a user on that tool account? [06:43:39] @harej: the tools container is refusing to start at all, so restarting it has no effect [06:43:54] Thank you for making the attempt [06:44:47] someone touched it ~5h30m ago, so I'd contact the maintainers [16:01:26] so I noticed https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaKey [16:01:50] 👋🏻 Hello orenbo [16:01:58] hi [16:02:06] Ok, so you mean changing the private key you use to log in with [16:02:08] my irc skills are a bit rusty [16:02:14] That's ok :) [16:02:18] I think the page you want is at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-openstack [16:02:23] yes that ^^ [16:02:26] It's under your preferences link [16:02:32] Maybe it moved sometime and I forgot :/ [16:02:48] yes that works fine [16:03:00] (btw, the confusion here is between 'certificate' and 'keypair' which are technically different things but very similar, we were being accidentally pedantic) [16:03:40] Yes sorry about that [16:04:14] well it ok to ask people what they mean. [16:04:44] there is a new paper from Google about running nlp transformers in O(n) [16:05:35] that could mean they might be able to work ok on a strong enough CPU [16:07:09] That might be interesting, definitely [16:22:03] orenbo: have a link you can share? [16:29:36] but it's early days and my current code base does not use this [16:29:42] the paper is at https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.11906 [16:30:20] thanks! [16:31:30] you can see its very recent [16:32:35] here is a repo https://github.com/lucidrains/h-transformer-1d [16:36:01] The WikiWho server (which powers the Who Wrote That tool, as a pretty widely used authorship highlighting feature on Wiki Education Dashboard, among other things) is shutting down in early 2022. [16:36:45] Anything know recent details on the possibility of WMF standing up a WikiWho server on cloud? Apparently it's something that Toni Sevener on the apps team had been considering at some point. [16:39:16] is the a guide for using docker in wikitech [16:39:32] I never got very good with puppet [16:40:19] orenbo: you mean running docker yourself on a virtual private server? or running a container on toolforge? [16:40:27] vps [16:41:09] afaik there's no guide, setting it up manually should be trivial if you don't want anything fancy/complicated though (apt install docker) [16:54:27] ragesoss: there's just been a task [16:54:33] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288840 [16:54:47] yep, was talking with Leon about it in the commtech channel. [16:55:14] omg turns out the GESIS people involved in https://github.com/wikiwho/WikiWho are also involved in my currnet projects (binderhub, etc) [16:55:16] small world [16:55:27] * RhinosF1 hops over there [17:25:56] ragesoss: A Cloud VPS project for that seems like an "easy" solution. But maybe a more interesting question is if we could have a more "production" deployment with a team that actually keeps the service up and adds features to the platform. I would personally love to see the sort of deep attribution that WikiWho provides all the way down in the MediaWiki core. [17:30:47] indeed. [17:50:08] this is like Magnus' wdqs vs query.wikidata.org [18:16:12] I personally dream of the day InternetArchiveBot becomes a proper production service [18:16:18] This is a bad idea for multiple reasons [18:33:24] if it were shutting down next month, I'd say "yeah just get it in Cloud VPS asap". But if we've got a few months, it's worth at least trying to do it right. [19:29:15] Is there any overlap between Wikimedia Cloud services and this group? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers [19:36:36] jane023 there is some overlap in terms of people but most wmcs work happens outside the domain of mediawiki itself. [19:36:54] There are a few cases where wmcs servers are used to run test/dev platforms for mediawiki though [19:39:10] Here, for example, is a mediawiki deploy hosted on cloud-vps: https://meta.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:39:26] Jane023, is that answering your question? [19:41:40] yes thx! [20:08:28] I'm skeptical "a few months" is enough time to bring WikiWho into WMF prod unless it's already really damn good [20:08:44] You have to provision resources, you have to allocate engineering time, you have to get a deployment window [20:09:34] And a deployment on Cloud VPS would likely be a first step in that process anyway 😄 [20:15:02] The code is there [20:15:20] It just needs putting somewhere and a sec / perf review if prod [20:15:47] Might need some pushing to get it there [20:51:22] RhinosF1: the bigger lift for prod is not the code, it is a team committed to keeping the service healthy. This is a much larger problem in the movement today than code quality in my opinion. [20:54:26] bd808: that's also a big issue