[14:22:54] Hello! Can someone say me how can one change its UNIX shell username? I asked around and was told that it was probably impossible but that I could ask here for a more definitive answer. [14:23:28] you can't rename an existing account, the only way is to create a new one :-/ [14:26:13] Hey Majavah! Hmm... Would it be too insensitive if I asked why? Like, I just want to know from a technical point of view why is it important to have the initial name and what provides the limitation. I'm rather n00b on this all thing so... It's just that during these days that I was asking around I stumbled upon quite some people that had a desire [14:26:14] for such a thing but couldn't do it and that got me thinking. [14:28:03] It's not impossible to be done, but it's not easy... And in most cases people who want to "rename" don't usually have anything of value they need moving... So in most cases it's just technically easier to have them create a new one [14:31:26] It's not easy from their side or from "other people's" side? I ask because, for example, I'd be willing to work on my side, having nothing better to do. :P [14:38:16] From the admin side. The problem is that we have a million different systems that use either of the developer account usernames (either the proper username or the unix shell name) and each has a different way to change it [14:42:46] Ah... I see... My hope was that we could file up a written request like we do for wiki global renames but I see that the "background" is not as much "formalized" as the SUL. Is there hope for having such an infrastructure ever implemented on this part as well? Sorry if the question doesn't make much sense. [15:03:40] Kelson: In theory yes, but I don't see it as very realistic due to the massive amount of work required and lack of interest from the people who are familiar with those systems [15:03:47] oops, meant to ping Klein [15:10:18] I see... :/  Thank you for the detailed answer, majavah! :)) [15:10:19] Last question, unrelated to that: Given that I'm new to IRC in general, is there a way I can leave the chat and see past messages send in general or towards me in the meantime? Or am I stuck with being stuck to the laptop screen once a conversation has started?:P [15:11:56] you'd need a bouncer of some sort, https://www.irccloud.com/ is a common option, https://thelounge.chat/ is good if you'd rather host it yourself [15:14:17] AntiComposite, so, if I sign up for an account there I'd be able to get messages saved? Again, sorry for my newbie questions. [15:18:02] yes, a bouncer stays connected when you leave and replays messages you missed when you rejoin [15:18:25] Thanks a lot! :)) [18:29:15] !log tools.pbbot Bump MySQL Connector/J to 8.0.27, update JNDI resource properties [18:29:17] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.pbbot/SAL