[02:11:17] [Q] I sent an email to pywikibot@lists.wikimedia.org and received an email from pywikibot-owner@lists.wikimedia.org which mentioned "Your message to the pywikibot mailing-list was rejected for the following reasons: The message is not from a list member". I'm now wondering if it is necessary to be subscribed in the mailing list to create new threads. Could anyone confirm please? [02:12:27] yes [02:12:41] most of the mailing lists are set up that way to prevent spam [02:13:42] you can subscribe at https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/pywikibot.lists.wikimedia.org/ [02:23:16] AntiComposite: Thanks. I have another question. When I subscribe, will I get all the messages that are sent to that mailing list? [02:24:24] from the point you subscribe onward, yes. You can unsubscribe at any time [02:26:13] AntiComposite: I want to create new threads and reply to the threads I've created, but I don't want to get messages for threads that other users have created, because I don't want my inbox to be fill with emails that I won't read. [02:27:00] Is there any way I can subscribe, but only get emails from the threads I've created? [02:28:19] Last time I started deliberately subscribing to mailing lists, I ended up in 10 mailing lists (postgres, emacs, maxima, zsh, etc.) and was getting around 200 emails per day, so I want to avoid this situation. [02:33:37] No [02:39:25] Digest mode? [02:44:46] you still get all the messages, just in one email that makes it more difficult to reply to any of them [03:00:16] Ok, so if I'm not a frequent user of pywikibot and I want to open a thread in the mailing list, the only way is to get all the messages from the mailing list, until the discussion in the thread I opened is finished. Afterwards, I can unsubscribe to stop getting those mails. [03:01:20] If that's correct, then I think this is a huge barrier for some users (as me). I'll probably open one thread every 3 months, so why getting all the mails during that period of time. I don't want my inbox to be filled with those messages. [03:03:39] This is like Github sending an email to all userrs that created an issue in a repository for every single issue that is being opened even when they are not participating. Users that open issues in the youtube-dl repository wouldn't dare to open another issue again. [03:11:47] it is a mailing list. that is how mailing lists work. it is a fairly low traffic mailing list, this really isn't a problem. you can set up filters in your email client. [03:14:01] you could try mime digests, maybe better than what I'm used to. depends on MUA. [03:14:54] you could be subscribed and able to post but receive no messages. not even replies to you. [03:14:55] [03:14:57] > Delivery status [03:14:58] > Set this option to Enabled to receive messages posted to this mailing list. Set it to Disabled if you want to stay subscribed, but don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it will not be automatically re-enabled. [03:18:50] true [03:55:17] Reedy, AntiComposite, jeremy_b: Thanks for the help, I'll try that solution [10:13:23] !log admin drained cloudvirt1053 in preparation for reimage (was spare anyway) [10:13:26] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Admin/SAL [11:11:36] Hello. I wonder if somebody could help me to understand what I'm doing wrong when trying to add a new wikireplica in T319190 [11:11:37] T319190: Prepare and check storage layer for bnwikiquote - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T319190 [11:12:42] The `sre.wikireplicas.add-wiki` cookbook, when run in dry-run mode says this: [11:12:49] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/80cKMmWq/ [11:13:31] However, `maintain_views` seems to bomb out with: `pymysql.err.OperationalError: (1044, "Access denied for user 'maintainviews'@'localhost' to database 'bnwikiquote\\_p'")` [11:17:13] I'd just like to understand more about who's supposed to do what. I know that Data Engineering agreed to take over this responsibility from WMCS, but the docs haven't been updated and I'm unsure of what steps I'm supposed to do, what's in the cookbook and what's not. Thanks. [11:17:14] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Add_a_wiki#Cloud_Services [11:30:26] btullis: that is maybe a missing grant somewhere? if so, I'd talk to the data-persistance team [11:33:16] arturo: Will do. Thanks. Are you happy for me to try to update some of this documentation to make it refer to the DE team? https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Data_Services/Admin/Wiki_Replicas#Admin_guide [11:33:32] btullis: of course! [11:33:51] 👍 👍 [11:55:22] Is this normal? What I'm getting right now [11:55:25] amir@amir-ThinkPad-P1-Gen-3:~$ ssh codesearch8.codesearch.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud [11:55:25] Received disconnect from UNKNOWN port 65535:2: Too many authentication failures [11:55:25] Disconnected from UNKNOWN port 65535 [11:55:51] I'm in *shrugs* [11:56:07] I can ssh into deployment-restbase04.deployment-prep.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud just fine [15:04:21] !log tools.mismatch-finder-staging php artisan migrate # T323204 [15:04:24] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.mismatch-finder-staging/SAL [15:06:39] !log tools.mismatch-finder php artisan migrate # T323204 [15:06:41] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.mismatch-finder/SAL [17:22:42] !log huggle Started XmlRcs service using instructions from https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/XmlRcs#Maintainer_info. Reported as offline by perryprog in #wikimedia-tech [17:22:43] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Huggle/SAL [18:29:35] !log tools.wikibugs Updated channels.yaml to: c1a96fd7796613e7c5a600147856d9bd9cc25c6d Remove unrelated projects from #-fundraising [18:29:36] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.wikibugs/SAL [19:49:13] do y'all still get alerts for hosts that can't run Puppet in WMCS? [19:50:04] the email one? [19:51:28] I think? Sorry for being so vague. I remember when I first got here about a year ago, I had a VM that wasn't running puppet and I got some emails, I believe someone also opened a phab ticket for the issue...let me see if I can find it [19:52:00] if it's that one it will say in it that you can create a file in `/disable-puppet-alert` or such to stop it [19:53:13] ah yes, thanks, I'll do that [19:53:25] I found the email, just didn't want to make extra work for anything ;) [19:53:29] or anyone [19:57:33] inflatador: please fix the issue instead :-) [19:57:50] ^ +1 to that if you are able :) [19:58:07] (and feel free to open a ticket if you can't and we'll help ;) ) [19:58:16] The issue is Puppet itself [19:58:21] (not to be flippant) [19:58:39] but it's not important to what I'm testing so I'd rather just avoid it [19:58:43] is there a task so it can be fixed? [19:59:09] No, it's not a technical matter, more about expectations [20:01:00] Using Terraform to test Flink (per your awesome announcement) https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/search-platform/sre/tf-wmcs-flink/-/tree/main/ [20:03:15] you can run puppet just fine on instances managed by terraform [20:09:16] !log wm-bot updated xmlrcs url in config [20:09:17] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Wm-bot/SAL