[09:39:21] <taavi>	 !log admin cloud vps graphite service was disabled: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/2023_Cloud_VPS_metrics_changes T326266
[09:39:25] <stashbot>	 Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Admin/SAL
[09:39:25] <stashbot>	 T326266: Remove the WMCS statsd/Graphite service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T326266
[20:04:00] <inflatador>	 do we allow nested virtualization on wmcs?
[20:48:19] <bd808>	 inflatador: we don't actively disallow it, but I seem to remember that some hypervisors don't ike something about how our instances are setup. I forget which types and the root issue though.
[20:50:44] <inflatador>	 bd808 no worries, I was looking at building some VM images for a proof of concept. I can do it elsewhere if it's not enabled
[20:54:02] <bd808>	 inflatador: I think T267433 is what I was vaguely remembering. If I'm reading that ticket right I think it should work everywhere these days.
[20:54:03] <stashbot>	 T267433: Enable support for nested VMs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267433
[20:56:27] <bd808>	 hmmm... or maybe not from what https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T276208#6876606 says. I guess "ask a.ndrewbogott" is maybe the next step
[21:00:54] <inflatador>	 ah, sounds like a "more trouble than it's worth" type ask
[21:41:08] <andrewbogott>	 I believe you can nest using qemu/full-software virtualization.  It's extremely slow!
[21:41:34] <andrewbogott>	 Doing actually nested virtualization where the code page gets run on the hardware processor turned out to be a big can of worms.