[03:41:24] any chance somebodies around and can approve https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/15a507c570371dc3538a46bf19a98fdf ? :) [03:41:52] Oh wait, basic access auto approves ? [03:42:04] That's neat :) [18:37:30] !log lucaswerkmeister@tools-bastion-13 tools.wd-image-positions deployed dcf0c5040e (l10n updates: ru) [18:37:33] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.wd-image-positions/SAL [19:31:38] !log canasta2_test deleting project as requested at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344068#9218117 [19:31:44] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Canasta2_test/SAL [19:53:06] bd808: [19:53:11] oops [19:53:31] now that we have object storage I'm pretty sure the Download project is obsolete, but I'm not sure what to do what the files served there currently... [19:53:38] See anything here you recognize of value? https://download.wmcloud.org/ [19:59:42] addshore, I have two Huggle questions. #1: is that project still useful? If so can you please mark it as in use on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Cloud_VPS_2024_Purge#huggle? #2: Is there any change that the huggle.ova file at https://download.wmcloud.org/ is still doing any good? [20:01:21] andrewbogott: by "obsolete" I guess you mean you would like folks to migrate away from it? [20:01:47] The huggle blob was the only thing I remember knowing about there [20:02:13] I am hoping/assuming that it's entirely unused at this point. [20:02:21] But there's at least one file on there from the last 12 months [20:03:09] do you think people are still installing huggle from that url? [20:03:12] * bd808 is having annoying web browser issues at the moment [20:06:29] andrewbogott: I don't have any idea how folks are installing Huggle these days, or even who might be semi-actively maintaining the tool. :/ [20:06:49] current huggle binaries are hosted on GitHub [20:07:07] bd808: I think the answer to that is 'no one, until Andrew shuts down the Huggle project and then, suddenly, everyone" [20:07:20] AntiComposite: that's useful, thanks. Are you also engaged with the huggle cloud-vps project at all? [20:07:49] no, I don't have access to it [20:08:13] I *think* the vps project hosts a transforming proxy for recent changes data that must exist [20:08:23] yeah, that would be xmlrcs2.huggle.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud [20:08:26] yeah, I think that too. [20:08:31] But it would be nice if it had a maintainer [20:08:42] I'm not sure if that's the same xmlrcs that wm-bot uses or if they're running their own [20:08:49] its hte same one [20:09:51] and its still the same unmaintained service that needs manual starting that petan setup forever ago [20:10:16] or at least it was the last time folks asked me to restart it [20:11:53] MacFan4000: ^ [20:15:13] the huggle.ova file is https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/wiki/Portable-development-environment [20:16:15] the download.wmcloud.org file was already marked as obsolete by August 2018, and I definitely wouldn't want to try to use a 2018 VM for development [20:16:59] great, I will start be deleting that file then [20:17:48] !log download deleting huggle.ova because it is super obsolete [20:17:50] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Download/SAL [20:24:17] thx AntiComposite [20:35:45] bd808: AntiComposite wm-bot uses its own XMLrcs instance [20:36:00] fun [20:36:12] I grew tired of having little to no maintenance on the huggle one [20:36:19] So I switched it [20:36:40] makes sense [20:36:46] I assume the huggle users would also like a maintained version... [20:37:14] huggle supports irc.wikimedia.org and direcly polling the recentchanges API in addition to xmlrcs [20:37:15] Though TBF I seem to be the only one keeping wm-bot alive at this point [20:38:36] I can't really remember the last time petan responded to a ping from me. Certainly within the last 5 years, but... yeah. [20:41:22] Folks wandering away is of course normal. It is only really problematic when nobody picks up project maintenance [20:44:30] yeah, Huggle is such a complicated project that maintaining it is difficult. I've thrown some patches at it, but active development would be difficult [20:45:01] it being C++ doesn't help [20:45:41] * andrewbogott thought it was C# [20:47:48] not since ~2014 [20:47:52] Hello, is there anyone here who works with Codex and can help me integrate it into Figma? I can't find it in the library modal. There is an instruction to join a Slack channel to ask for help, but I was unsuccessful in joining. Thanks :) [20:50:18] ederporto: the only way for non-staff to contact the Design folks is by following the instructions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_System_Team/Working_with_us [20:51:21] the links in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_System_Team/Resources#For_designers and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_System_Team/Announcing_Codex_1.0 may or may not be helpful, I don't know. [20:51:59] bd808: is the mediawiki-vagrant cloud-vps project still doing things? [20:52:12] andrewbogott: you'll have to ask tgr|away [20:52:20] ederporto: feel free to add a comment though how the use of Slack affected the user story [20:54:23] wm-bot also is C [20:54:54] andrewbogott: for additional clarification on that question, I have not contributed to mw-vagrant regularly since 2020. tgr is the current BDFL for the project as far as I know. [20:55:24] bd808: ok! Want me to remove you from the project so I don't ping you again next year? [20:56:05] eh, I don't know that I'm ready to take that step :) [20:56:22] ok :) [20:56:27] it is hard to walk away from your babies ;) [21:08:27] Thank you, but those links are the ones that direct to the Slack channel if someone has questions. I just wanted to draft design in Figma before implementing Codex in a new tool I'm developing (re @wmtelegram_bot: the links in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_System_Team/Resources#For_designers and https://www.mediawiki...) [21:10:12] @ederporto: sadly that mw.o page is mostly about how a WMF team could contact the design team. [21:11:57] Thank you for the help, though [21:12:01] The only way for non-staff to contact them is to file a Phab task [21:13:32] I reposed most of the exchange between @ederporto and AntiComposite in the slack channel. Let's see if Roan or someone can figure something out. [21:14:22] (I left out my snark about the target audience of that mw.o page) [21:15:31] I think the last time someone asked me this they ended up emailing either the PM or a designer directly, can't quite remember though [21:16:55] Roan has pinged some folks to ask about the root question of using Codex in Figma if you aren't part of the WMF Figma account. Hopefully that will result in some wiki page updates. [22:15:15] @ederporto and AntiComposite: T332325 and T288370 are apparently the known open tasks that are directly relevant to this question of how to use Codex in Figma as non-WMF staff. [22:15:18] T332325: Document usage instructions of Codex Figma libraries for external contributors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332325 [22:15:18] T288370: Evaluate sharing our Design System Figma libraries as “Community Figma files” - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288370