[17:50:55] bd808: I'm attempting to create a new toolforge tool named "prototyper". I don't see any hit for this name at https://toolsadmin.wikimedia.org/tools/?q=prototyper but https://toolsadmin.wikimedia.org/tools/create says that the name is in use or invalid. Any ideas about that? [17:56:19] Update: I was able to create the tool using toolhub. [18:01:45] (but that doesn't actually create the tool in toolforge, so no real progress) [19:03:45] dancy: toolhub is just a metadata catalog, so that's not really helpful to your cause at all. [19:03:59] Nod. I figured that bit out eventually [19:04:24] I need to remind myself what name checks are in use in Striker. If it is checking against SUL names (and it might be) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Prototyper would be a name collision. [19:08:15] dancy: yeah, so the issue is basically the same as T380384. The code in Striker assumes things about Wikitech that are no longer true and that leads to confusing outcomes now. [19:08:15] T380384: [toolsadmin] Striker cannot create Developer accounts with names matching existing SUL accounts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380384 [19:24:46] dancy: I guess my advice is to pick a new name for your project. :/ [19:25:24] Nod. I did that. I guess an improvement would be for the project creation UI to say exactly why a particular name cannot be used [19:25:33] *tool creation [19:25:43] (e..g, "already used by account XXX") [19:25:59] Thanks for the responses. I'm unblocked for the time being. [19:26:13] The tool doesn't really know. It just asks MediaWiki if it would be allowed to create a new account with the given name. [19:26:25] Does mediawiki know? [19:27:41] at some level, but maybe not in a way easy to surface to the API. There are hooks involved so things could get blocked for various reasons [19:28:40] in practice for our wiki farm I think it would be either a direct name collision or an anti-spoof variation [21:23:02] i am about to shut down parsing-qa-02 .. there is pause/suspend/shutoff/delete ... I assume pause/suspend are temporary. Is shutoff just equivalent to "powering down" and it can be turned on again. And delete is permanent? [21:23:32] i could easily find docs on wikitech for this. [21:23:38] *couldn't [21:26:38] subbu: yeah. shutoff is hitting the power switch and delete is throwing the files away. [21:26:58] suspend is like closing the lid on your laptop [21:27:10] I don't remember what pause functionally does [21:28:55] i'll shutoff off today and delete in a day or two. ctt-qa-03 is stable and I haven't needed anything from parsing-qa-03 for 10 days now.