[14:06:13] <kormat>	 sobanski: i'm going to merge the db-host-down-alerting change now, send a mail out to ops@, and then mention it in the staff meeting
[14:10:18] <sobanski>	 👍
[14:16:42] <kormat>	 merged, mail sent, item added to sre meeting agenda.
[14:35:00] <Amir1>	 we are getting rid of A LOT of XML. compare these two
[14:35:00] <Amir1>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Kepler(1920).djvu&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=metadata
[14:35:00] <Amir1>	 and https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=File:!May_mes_monarquia!_(1873).djvu&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=metadata
[14:38:27] <kormat>	  poor endangered angle brackets
[14:41:37] <Emperor>	 XML can get in the sea already as far as I'm concerned :)
[15:25:38] <Amir1>	 Emperor: someone needs to push it to the sea? :P
[16:11:54] <Reedy>	 wrap it in json
[16:11:57] <Reedy>	 then who cares
[16:13:51] <Amir1>	 :P
[16:28:00] <bd808>	 XML is way nicer to work with than JSON in pretty much every context other than hand editing and javascript.
[16:28:38] <bd808>	 better parsers, streaming parsers, good libraries for data extraction, good libraries for data transform
[16:28:56] <bd808>	 comments!
[16:37:16] <jynus>	 compress xml into gzip format > base64 encode > embed in json > compress using lzma > reference json file in yaml config > write 12GB java app to transform between file formats > throw everything to the garbage and relocate to a inhabited, remote island in the Pacific
[17:53:13] <Amir1>	 json is much smaller :D
[19:08:32] <Amir1>	 jynus: Hi, I want to change GRANTs of wikiadmin user in db2100 which according to puppet is a dbstore_multiistance (backup storage?). Any comment/concern?
[19:32:13] <Amir1>	 actually, nvm s8 ones are already fixed
[19:49:28] <Amir1>	 fixing grants of db2101:3315 (s5) on wikiadmin user, I did it live