[11:35:22] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Does anyone know why [[w:no:MediaWiki-diskusjon:Growthexperiments-homepage-startediting-dialog-intro-response-edit-typo]] doesn't show up in [[w:no:Kategori:Sider som er foreslått raskt slettet]]?
[11:35:22] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> The template which puts it inside that category is inside an {{#ifeq:}}, but I thought it would appear in the category if the template actually renders.
[11:37:46] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> After null edit it does :P
[11:38:16] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> ah, thanks. i tried purging, but not null editing
[11:38:48] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> (I still don't fully understand what the differences between the two are)
[11:39:48] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> I only know from practical perspective that null edits almost always work, while purges are usually useless :)
[11:39:57] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> I think a null edit corresponds to what the action=purge API calls forcelinkupdate (“Update the links tables and do other secondary data updates”), if that makes more sense
[11:40:12] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> (where “the links tables” presumably includes categorylinks)
[11:40:24] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> (where “the links tables” presumably includes https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Categorylinks_table)
[11:42:03] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> ah yeah, that makes sense. could i use forcelinkupdate=1 as a URL parameter in addition to ?action=purge, or is that only available via the API? (re @lucaswerkmeister: I think a null edit corresponds to what the action=purge API calls forcelinkupdate (“Update the links tables and do other secondary data updates”), if that makes more sense)
[11:42:14] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> I don’t think that’s available there, no
[11:42:23] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> depends on what you're trying to do, i guess 😉 (re @Thecladis: I only know from practical perspective that null edits almost always work, while purges are usually useless :))
[11:45:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> I think purge works for stuff like updating magic words values, but so would null edit 🤷‍♂ (re @jhsoby: depends on what you're trying to do, i guess 😉)
[11:59:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <HikeAndMap> is there any progress on MediaWiki for this weird thing that larger galleries & tables with lots of images are not shown properly - but needs to be ?action=purge once or multiple times to actually render all the pictures?