[00:00:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> Is anyone aware of examples of how to use editing API in Python, together with edit conflict detection?
[00:00:06] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit for some reason has only a toy example
[00:00:52] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> https://doc.wikimedia.org/pywikibot/master/ ? (re @matkoniecz: Is anyone aware of examples of how to use editing API in Python, together with edit conflict detection?
[00:00:52] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> https://www.mediawiki.o...)
[00:02:24] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> that is using Pywikibot, I want to use API directly.
[00:02:24] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> Pywikibot has insane pointless pile of complexity, starting from need to create user-config.py (re @MaartenDammers: https://doc.wikimedia.org/pywikibot/master/ ?)
[00:03:00] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> Ah, you want to re-invent the wheel. Good luck with that! (re @matkoniecz: that is using Pywikibot, I want to use API directly.
[00:03:00] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> Pywikibot has insane pointless pile of complexity, starting from need to c...)
[00:04:09] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> well, with pywikibot I would need to either
[00:04:09] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> - hardcode login data
[00:04:10] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> - create it at runtime which is weird, duplicating config data in multiple places and increasing space where things can fail
[00:04:12] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> I am trying to create library - in such case having weird special config files with state lurking in random places is really painful. And sharing password and account between all users is nonstarter. (re @MaartenDammers: Ah, you want to re-invent the wheel. Good luck with that!)
[00:07:40] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> Did you try https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/PAWS ?
[00:10:53] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> No. Not sure how it would solve any of my problems. (re @MaartenDammers: Did you try https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/PAWS ?)
[00:11:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> > baserevid    ID of the base revision, used to detect edit conflicts. May be obtained through action=query&prop=revisions. Self-conflicts cause the edit to fail unless basetimestamp is set. 
[00:11:46] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit seems to be wrong, with rvprop=ids as a real answer
[00:11:48] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <matkoniecz> at least for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvlimit=1&rvprop=content|timestamp|ids&format=json&titles=Sandbox
[00:50:10] <legoktm[m]>	 It's not wrong per se, rvprop=ids is part of the default unless you specify other things