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[13:47:32] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <RMB> Looking for to USDT to sell from your wallet! Well, is that so! I'll pay for that with high % for you! Contact me if you're interested
[17:17:10] <Base>	 Looks funny on this side with all the spam being around for good xD
[18:03:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Nahla0065> Hello everyone
[19:31:39] <Hogue>	 Hello will there be this year a virual Wikimedia Hackathon. I participated in the last two years and I am interested in participating when the event happens.
[19:35:10] <AntiComposite>	 it hasn't been announced yet
[19:37:03] <AntiComposite>	 (which means it'll probably be online)
[20:02:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> @lucaswerkmeister do you know if the SDC dumps are supposed to be the same format as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/M76.json ?
[20:02:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> Several of the page related fields seem to be missing in the dump
[20:02:47] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> not sure, I think the Wikidata dumps also have minor differences between EntityData and dump JSON?
[20:03:12] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> though I think we reduced some of those differences over time, I think it used to be that some hashes were in one but not the other and that eventually got harmonized
[20:03:17] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> I'm looking at /mnt/nfs/dumps-labstore1006.wikimedia.org/commonswiki/entities $ zcat latest-mediainfo.json.gz | head -2
[20:03:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> And things like title, modified, are missing, but it does contain the lastrevid
[20:04:27] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> Triggered by the question at
[20:04:30] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#Commons_entities_dump_-_how_to_know_for_which_file_it_is?
[20:07:39] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> I think that’s actually the same for items?
[20:07:52] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q31.json has ns but zcat /mnt/nfs/dumps-labstore1006.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/entities/latest-all.json.gz | head -2 | tail -1 | sed 's/,$//' | jq . | less doesn’t have that either
[20:08:09] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> I think that’s a Special:EntityData thing (and wbgetentities), that it adds a few extra fields to the entity JSON
[20:08:16] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> I guess so, but let's of an issue because the page title for an item is just the item
[20:08:26] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> in repo/includes/Api/ResultBuilder.php if I’m not mistaken (which the dumps don’t use)
[20:08:29] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> yeah
[20:08:46] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> For Commons we still haven't gotten to the point of disconnecting the title and the identifier of the file
[20:10:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> I wonder if I ever filed the bug to start working on SLUGs for Commons files so we can just have commons.wikimedia.org/media/M123523_whatever_you_feel_like.jpg
[21:06:56] <AntiComposite>	 oh what a mess that would be
[21:46:44] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> No, currently it's a mess because the filename is both the identifier and the title. 
[21:46:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> People don't like the title, rename the file and change (and sometimes break) the identifier in the process. (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] <AntiComposite> oh what a mess that would be)
[21:48:20] <AntiComposite>	 would I love to have persistent identifiers for Commons images? yes. Do I think it will have community buy-in? No.