[06:20:50] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <srishakatux> *Hello everyone! **Seyram Komla* *and I are planning to organize a few sessions at the upcoming Wikimedia Hackathon; each focused on a popular bot to show how one can set it up on their language wiki: **https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T306593**. We are currently recruiting session leaders who are owners / maintainers of a popular bot (for example, **https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Star
[12:21:02] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> In the Minerva skin (mobile skin), I'm getting the following error for a gadget I'm making:
[12:21:04] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> 
[12:21:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> "JavaScript parse error (scripts need to be valid ECMAScript 5)"
[12:21:07] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> 
[12:21:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> ECMAScript 5 is from 2009. Why is that a requirement?
[12:26:55] <Reedy>	 because browser support
[12:27:14] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/ES6#When_it's_OK_to_use_ES6
[12:36:47] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Internet Explorer haunting us from the past 🤬
[12:40:11] <Reedy>	 I think there's more progress towards ES6
[12:40:13] * Reedy looks in phab
[12:40:31] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178356
[12:40:36] <Reedy>	 >Oct 17 2017, 10:06 AM
[12:40:36] <Reedy>	 lol
[12:40:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> /me wants to use ES9 actually. Guess i'll wait till 2050 or smth 😂
[12:41:09] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288287 is I guess what you need to happen
[12:46:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> or https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75714 which is more specific to user scripts and gadgets
[13:14:20] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <djhartman> Thats what transpilers are for (re @jhsoby: /me wants to use ES9 actually. Guess i'll wait till 2050 or smth 😂)
[13:29:06] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> there are other ways of doing what i want to do, so i'll figure it out. It's just annoying having to learn decades-old ways of doing stuff when you *know* that much more intuitive and efficient methods exist (re @djhartman: Thats what transpilers are for)
[14:18:46] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <djhartman> Well, thats what backwards compatibility results in.
[14:21:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Yeah also pretty useless re real life. (re @jhsoby: there are other ways of doing what i want to do, so i'll figure it out. It's just annoying having to learn decades-old ways of d...)
[14:24:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <djhartman> Ugh stockphoto gadget on Commons is broken with the new a/v player… speaking of old crap ;)