[12:16:09] does anyone know of a way to get the server's UTC time offset in Lua? e.g. the equivalent of {{LOCALHOUR}}-{{CURRENTHOUR}} (or the {{#time:}}/{{#timel:}} equivalent) [12:16:10] [12:16:11] I've tried the following, but the results are exactly the same (even though the documentation says one is server time and one is UTC time): [12:16:13] `mw.logObject( os.date( '*t', os.time() ) ) [12:16:14] mw.logObject( os.date( '!*t', os.time() ) ) [12:16:16] `(the version with `!` is supposed to be UTC and not local time) [12:42:42] I think I found it. Confusingly it is under `mw.language`; `mw.language:formatDate()` seems to work pretty much like `{{#time:}}` [15:13:45] I would say that "server time" and "wiki time" are very different thing, but I'm glad you found what you're looking for [16:06:55] oh yes, i agree, but i remember seeing the term "server time" being used for the local wiki time setting. But when I think about it, that was probably used by less tech-savvy wikipedians