[00:45:54] Yup (re @tehreedy: I found the light switch for the light under the bed! On the other side by the massive mirror wall) [02:04:16] in my room it's on the same side as the door [04:59:45] Good morning everyone! Before you leave your accommodations, two reminders: [04:59:46] - don't forget your badge and your tickets to be able to access food & drinks [04:59:48] - we have the group photo today, so feel free to wear your hackathon T-shirt [05:00:29] The venue and registration/help desk will open at 8:30. The first session in the program starts at 10:00. [05:25:10] I just removed the card and everything went dark. Last night I killed the noisy refrigerator also 🤷‍♂️ (re @tehreedy: I found the light switch for the light under the bed! On the other side by the massive mirror wall) [05:54:49] @harej made a first iteration of the database structure for Q118439137 [05:54:49] [05:54:51] I would like to gather ideas for queries you would like it to answer from all of you wonderful people 🤩 [05:54:52] [05:54:54] For example https://github.com/internetarchive/wiki-references-db/issues/2 [05:54:55] [05:54:57] Please open an issue there for all queries/questions you want it to answer ❤️🙏 [06:23:39] Thank you. Reedy helped me out yesterday 🙏 (re @Barrio1234: tonythomas: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/JetBrains_IDEs#How_do_I_get_a_license%3F) [06:56:47] Hey all- the IP Masking session starts in the MachineWorks workshop room in a few minutes if anyone is interested! I’ll drop a link to the slides afterwards. [07:02:00] https://codesearch.wmcloud.org/ is down – 502 Bad Gateway [07:02:14] IP Masking notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmh2023-IP_Masking [07:04:28] Hello all! As noted before if any issues arise regarding safety please don't hesitate to reach out to us (this is a private account hosted by the event safety team). You can also email hackathon@wikimedia.org or find us in the room. Happy Day 2 🎉 [07:07:42] Coming up at #wmhack #wmhack2023 [07:07:43] 🕰️10:00 [07:07:45] [07:07:46] Schemas for medical entitites [07:07:48] 📍 Warehouse Workshop Room [07:07:49] 📝 Etherpad: https://bit.ly/3Whhcme [07:07:51] [07:07:52] IP Masking [07:07:54] 📍 MachineWorks Workshop Room [07:07:55] 📝 Etherpad: https://bit.ly/41St7Zd [07:29:48] Hey, we will be Discovering VideoCutTool (https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers#VideoCutTool): Learn, Create, and Provide Feedback on the same. If interested walk into the warehouse room. [07:39:48] It's kinda unconference discussion, with no formal ppt, and talks. Please feel free to walk in, to learn and provide your feedback on the tool. (re @gopavasanth: Hey, we will be Discovering VideoCutTool: Learn, Create, and Provide Feedback on the same. If interested walk into the warehouse...) [07:44:47] Do we want to know which users added/edited a certain reference? [07:44:48] Then we could query for the users who edit references the most etc. [07:44:49] Who edits most DOIs etc. [07:44:51] Who edits most references with urls that have the domain "cnn.com" (re @dpriskorn: @harej made a first iteration of the database structure for Q118439137 [07:44:52] [07:44:54] I would like to gather ideas for queries you would like ...) [07:47:11] Who edits most plain text references? 🔥 [07:48:53] We could train a model to predict the quality of each unique reference. [07:50:05] We could help editors directly in tools like proveit to jusge the quality of each individual reference according to our model. [07:51:40] We could also train a model that suggests what could be done to improve the reference in question. E.g. om a cite journal reference without a doi and any other identifier we could suggest that the editor ask chatgpt for one and checks the result online. [07:52:09] @diegodlh [07:55:42] Anyone here who's (a bit) knowledgeable about batch importing (data from csv / spreadsheets / ...) into a Semantic MediaWiki (emphasizing *Semantic*). What would be good ways to approach that? [07:56:18] (e.g. create hundreds-thousands new pages with some of the semantic stuff filled in with data pre-populated in a spreadsheet or csv) [07:58:35] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110462723 is attending, I think he can help 😀 (re @trnstlntk: Anyone here who's (a bit) knowledgeable about batch importing (data from csv / spreadsheets / ...) into a Semantic MediaWiki (em...) [07:59:30] Wolfgang told me yesterday about a script he made for populating a semantic mediawiki based on a spreadsheet 😀 (re @trnstlntk: (e.g. create hundreds-thousands new pages with some of the semantic stuff filled in with data pre-populated in a spreadsheet or ...) [08:06:27] IP Masking slides are available at https://tinyurl.com/ipmasking (https://tinyurl.com/ipmasking). You can find me or Thalia in the main hacking room if there are any ideas, concerns or questions. :) [08:10:53] Thank you for joining us today, Feel free to play with the tool https://videocuttool.wmcloud.org/ and provide your feedback, bugs or feature requests on our Phab board (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/videocuttool/). (re @gopavasanth: It's kinda unconference discussion, with no formal ppt, and talks. Please feel free to walk in, to learn and provide your feedba...) [08:28:57] If you want to chat abot tools in your organization...Find this person (me) and ask about the magic "FLOSS Survey". Thanks 🥳— Wikimedians for software freedom : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/718d15fa/file_48269.jpg [08:28:58] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/8edbbe59/file_48270.jpg [08:32:57] Hey everyone, the group photo will be taken at 13:45 after the lunch in front of the big, rusty, cylindrical construct. You will see it on your right side after you go out of the main hacking building. [08:36:22] Meeting point: coffee pause corner (re @bozzy: If you want to chat abot tools in your organization... [08:36:22] [08:36:24] Find this person (me) and ask about the magic "FLOSS Survey". Thanks 🥳 [08:36:25] [08:36:27] ...) [08:54:47] Can anyone show me how to create a pull request on github? [08:55:00] Nominate an exceptional community member to be celebrated this month! You can do so by participating to our informal survey at https://w.wiki/6f8A [08:58:30] dwalden42: If you visit the canonical repo, you should get a banner to help you do it if you've pushed a commit to any branch on your fork [08:58:32] (happy to help in person) [09:01:30] Actually, nevermind, I've just realised that I cannot log into github on this device. Thanks for the offer Reedy [09:02:12] 2FA issues? [09:02:16] Yep [09:03:28] :( [09:07:08] btw, found this about Acropolis museum: [09:07:09] https://www.theacropolismuseum.gr/en/plan-your-visit [09:07:10] ``` [09:07:12] [09:07:13] Announcement: On Saturday 20 May 2023, the Museum will be open from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and on Sunday 21 May 2023, the Museum will be open from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m., due to the National Elections of 21st May 2023.``` [09:07:15] The gas holder? (re @Neslihan: Hey everyone, the group photo will be taken at 13:45 after the lunch in front of the big, rusty, cylindrical construct. You will...) [09:10:16] * Reedy waits to see Lcawte hold gas [09:15:23] exactly, describing seemed more safe as the function of the building is not that obvious :) (re @lcawte: The gas holder?) [09:16:56] does anyone if and how we can query a mailing list? or export everything to file. I am looking to capture date when an email was sent, and the subject of the message. [09:20:09] Are you looking for more features than this tool provides? [09:20:09] https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/ (re @kcvelaga: does anyone know if and how we can query a mailing list? or export everything to file. I am looking to capture date when an emai...) [09:21:06] I am looking something more like an API or database I can query, for messages of a particular mailing list (re @gopavasanth: Are you looking for more features than this tool provides? [09:21:07] https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimed...) [09:24:09] Googling for mailing list stuff is probably the easiest way [09:24:20] @bd808 speaking of the versions tool, here’s a minor fix :P https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/toolforge-repos/versions/-/merge_requests/3 [09:34:51] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/7d320aab/file_48272.jpg [09:34:51] Lunch is ready! [09:35:00] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/97ccaa27/file_48273.jpg [09:35:32] As a reminder, hallal and kosher food is also available, just ask the waiters [09:35:43] if you also want your nails painted in the Wikimedia colors, come find me :) : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/89d9e4c5/file_48274.jpg [09:36:22] NEED 👉👈 (re @lucaswerkmeister: if you also want your nails painted in the Wikimedia colors, come find me :)) [09:36:32] (note: ideally you'd let them dry a bit longer than I did – I think I started 9:40 and then had to go to the first session by 10:00, and it would've been better to give them some more time) [09:38:57] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/0ea1f8df/file_48275.jpg [09:39:26] Grab lunch and sit at the table with the chess board to learn some chess. [09:39:41] Starting as soon as I grab some food [09:44:10] We are having an informal lunch group to talk citations - table in shade near Workshop. Anyone welcome to join me, Diego (web3cit) @diegodlh @jdforrester @dpriskorn and more [09:45:26] Coming! (re @fuzheado: We are having an informal lunch group to talk citations - table in shade near Workshop. Anyone welcome to join me, Diego (web3ci...) [10:02:15] @waldyrious https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/integration/docroot [10:17:35] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/98021fe0/file_48276.jpg [10:17:46] Workshop in progress [10:26:52] Don't foryour group photo! [10:29:11] pin (re @Neslihan: Hey everyone, the group photo will be taken at 13:45 after the lunch in front of the big, rusty, cylindrical construct. You will...) [10:34:08] 📷 Group photo taking place in 10min in front of the gaz holder (on the left side of the venue) [10:34:09] Let's meet there! [10:34:54] Is that nearby this thing? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e755b850/file_48277.jpg [10:51:49] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b9077ac9/file_48278.jpg [11:03:49] If people are hanging out by the front door, could you please check that it's always shut after people exit or enter? It's very loud in the workshop room due to the soundcheck [11:06:45] Would it be possible to ask our neighbors to turn down the volume until the concert? (re @kostajh: If people are hanging out by the front door, could you please check that it's always shut after people exit or enter? It's very ...) [11:07:22] T333113, someone can see and maybe do an +2? [11:18:56] Group photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:At_Wikimedia_Hackathon_Athens_(MP)_2023_001.jpg [11:19:06] Cropped version: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:At_Wikimedia_Hackathon_Athens_(MP)_2023_001_(cropped).jpg [11:19:23] (others coming soon) [11:19:35] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/be14aae1/file_48280.jpg [11:23:30] Interactive 360 photosphere of our group photo: [11:23:31] https://panoviewer.toolforge.org/#Wikimedia-hackathon-2023-groupshot-panorama.jpg (re @fuzheado: ) [11:34:28] Has this been uploaded to Commons already? Just for sharing and proper crediting? :) (re @fuzheado: ) [11:36:33] I NEED THIS jajaja (re @lucaswerkmeister: if you also want your nails painted in the Wikimedia colors, come find me :)) [11:37:14] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia-hackathon-2023-groupshot-panorama.jpg [11:37:53] Neslihan currently has it ^^ (re @Soylacarli: I NEED THIS jajaja) [11:38:10] we're all squished! (re @wmtelegram_bot: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia-hackathon-2023-groupshot-panorama.jpg) [11:38:37] better to view that one via panoviewer. :-) [11:52:08] 📯 The *showcase* will take place tomorrow during the closing, from 14:30 to 16:30. It will be the occasion to present what you've been working on. (*2min/project*). You can find more information on T334502 [11:52:09] And you can already *sign up for a slot* here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmh2023-Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023_Project_Showcase [11:55:27] Any stewards around at this event? Marius maybe? Can someone change the block of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlockList?ip=78.129.222.14 so it only affects IP users and not logged in users? It broke some tools hosted there [11:57:42] Done :) (re @albertoleoncio: T333113, someone can see and maybe do an +2?) [11:58:59] Found Marius, still on irc: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlockList?ip=78.129.222.14 [12:03:18] If anyone has +2 on CheckUser, would appreciate a review of T318448. [12:08:34] +2 ! (re @Dreamy: If anyone has +2 on CheckUser, would appreciate a review of T318448.) [12:08:54] Thanks! (re @kostajh: +2 !) [12:12:15] Thanks! Now do I have to poke someone to add it to the train, or it goes by itself? (re @Dreamy: Done :)) [12:13:17] It goes in by itself, so you should see it on wikis next week :) (re @albertoleoncio: Thanks! Now do I have to poke someone to add it to the train, or it goes by itself?) [12:22:13] I made a Commons category: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_hackathon_group_photos [12:25:29] FYI, if you are in the Web2Cit session, here is the link to the monitor page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Web2Cit/monitor [12:32:11] Anyone with a hotel pool that wants to let me in today or tmrw, please dm 😅👌🏼🙏🏼 [12:35:56] ICYMI: if you're working on a project that uses Quibble for CI (e.g. most mediawiki extensions) you might be interested in https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tool:Early_warning_bot#Using_with_your_project to get immediate feedback if a CI job fails [12:50:11] can I get some +1s on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/921530 please? [12:53:59] Done (re @wmtelegram_bot: can I get some +1s on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/921530 please?) [12:57:00] Please join us in celebrating our outstanding tech contributors in the Wikimedia movement! If you know someone that in your opinion should be celebrated for their work, please participate to our informal survey at https://w.wiki/6f8A [13:04:41] Krinkle: Can we chat re. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/747181 ? :-) [13:06:36] For those who were at the "improving automatic citations with Web2Cit" session (or anyone interested), we will continue working with it at 5 pm at some table in the hacking room. Just look for us (we may have a Web2Cit sign somewhere) if you have any questions or would like to work together! [13:29:33] @lucaswerkmeister and @NicoleLBee - your sessions tomorrow morning do not currently have coordinators. I'm looking for volunteers to help out! 🙂 [13:46:15] and! we have session coordinators! 🙂 (re @deb_t: @lucaswerkmeister and @NicoleLBee - your sessions tomorrow morning do not currently have coordinators. I'm looking for volunteer...) [13:46:32] Does anyone know of a nice workflow for developing gadets (that does not involve repeatedly saving wiki pages)? I'm trying to work out something using Tampermonkey but maybe someone has solved this problem already? [13:48:19] The complex gadgets I work on use `npm start` to boot up a localhost server to serve the pages needed, then they are included in common.js via stuff like `mw.loader.load('http://127.0.0.1:5500'); // twinkle dev` [13:49:55] Example: https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/blob/master/scripts/dev-server.js [13:53:03] Amir1: legoktm: I asked for one item, not two :D [13:53:38] ahaha [13:54:03] what's the second item?? [13:54:10] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q118521701 [13:54:19] I even linked it to RealMe! [13:54:57] Amir created https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q118521440 half an hour before you created that [13:56:03] copy the gadget code in its entirety into the browser console, that's what i do. you might have to wrap it in `mw.loader.using( [ modules ], function() { `…` } )` and/or prepending with `mw.loader.load( stylesheet, 'text/css' );` if styles are integral to the functionality (re @gtisza: Does anyone know of a nice workflow for developing gadets (that does not involve repeatedly s [13:56:03] aving wiki pages)? I'm trying to wo...) [13:59:18] lmao [13:59:22] okay I merged the two items [13:59:26] but mine had way better metadata [14:02:22] hello! so, a friend from Brazil, João Peschanski, send a gift to Kalliope, but as she is not in the event, they asked me to deliver the thing to either Effie Mouzeli or Joe Sutherland bc they will (likely) meet her [14:02:22] [14:02:24] if any of you is either Effie or Joe, could you send me a message? cheers!! [14:11:22] hi Tiago! I am in the main room on the table next to the door! (re @TiagoLubiana: hello! so, a friend from Brazil, João Peschanski, send a gift to Kalliope, but as she is not in the event, they asked me to deli...) [14:16:05] If you like rubiks cubes or juggling, this is your invitation! We are at one of the dinner tables outside. Come join us 😎 😎 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/0e5ce238/file_48282.jpg [14:18:10] Oh nice 😍 joining there.. (re @Barrio1234: If you like rubiks cubes or juggling, this is your invitation! We are at one of the dinner tables outside. Come join us 😎 😎) [14:21:48] @jhsoby where can I find you? [14:22:18] 👋 at a table to the right by the back door (re @ferdi2005: @jhsoby where can I find you?) [14:36:23] legoktm: I used better sources [14:46:40] Do we have a space where people can list patches they would like to be reviewed? [14:46:44] for this hackathon [14:46:52] Would like to find patches that people are wanting merged [14:46:56] Plus propose some of mine [14:46:59] Without bugging everyone here [14:55:39] @kostajh, Isaac, and @blancadesal we have the opportunity to move your sessions to Innovathens tomorrow. Would you be interested? [14:56:15] sure [14:58:04] Dreamy_Jazz: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_review/patch_board, perhaps? [14:58:13] Sure. [14:58:52] Was thinking of something for hacking projects that were on Gerrit, but that should also work. [15:02:00] We have no shortage of exceptional community members among tech contributors. Be sure they get properly wikicelebrated, by nominating someone in our informal survey at https://w.wiki/6f8A [15:02:14] Dinner and drinks will be available in a few minutes until 19:30 - don't forget your "Saturday" tickets to access alcoholic drinks. Other drinks are freely available at the bar. [15:03:48] I wonder who is replacing Etherpad notes to with a Russian translation ... o.O [15:04:19] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmh2023-Community_configuration *meh* [15:06:11] From experience, this is often due to one of the viewers' automatic translation browser extension being very zealous [15:07:59] Sounds great for Slavina and me! Thanks @deb_t (re @deb_t: @kostajh, Isaac, and @blancadesal we have the opportunity to move your sessions to Innovathens tomorrow. Would you be interested...) [15:09:27] Cristian cantoro: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Jobs_framework [15:09:46] siebrand: https://wikis.world/invite/AnXxRUCh [15:17:44] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/5d45244e/file_48283.jpg [15:17:45] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/99528cb4/file_48284.jpg [15:17:58] @fuzheado and I suggest for all Structured Data on Commons fans and aficionadas to sit together at one dinner table. I will occupy one soon (if a free one is available) and will add an SDC sign/label or something, unless someone else beats me to it. [15:19:16] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/14d6f5b3/file_48286.jpg [15:19:16] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/8876ac51/file_48287.jpg [15:19:18] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/ddff6b83/file_48288.jpg [15:30:56] /there is a black backpack in the warehouse, is anyone missing theirs? [15:31:08] /there [15:32:22] We have a table near the registration entrance - I am also the only red shirt wearer so it’s easy to spot :) (re @trnstlntk: @fuzheado and I suggest for all Structured Data on Commons fans and aficionadas to sit together at one dinner table. I will occu...) [15:32:44] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/8d7b4150/file_48289.jpg [16:25:21] @trnstlntk @MaartenDammers MikePeel, Discussed during dinner: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2804309 [16:35:57] There is a small pile of beer in the hatcking space in case you run out of tickets 🎟️ or the bar stops serving. Enjoy, and make sure to redistribute evenly! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6ac3ac0b/file_48292.jpg [17:13:23] There's a board game table growing in a corner of the hacking room! Come and find us ♟️🤖🔲 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9dfd7365/file_48293.jpg [17:14:08] YEEEEESSSSS [17:46:57] @MaartenDammers https://www.artigo.org for all your social tagging needs! [17:47:39] Joe can you come find me, please? [17:50:37] someone hacking me at the hackathon? 🤨 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/642ed4be/file_48294.jpg [17:50:45] (I don't remember signing up for Matrix ^^) [17:56:50] @lucaswerkmeister: That's from me signing bridgebot up for a matrix account. See T337136 [17:56:50] T337136: Test Matrix to Telegram bridge - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337136 [17:57:38] @lucaswerkmeister: I used bridgebot.matrix@toolforge.org for the email. You get copies from being a co-maintainer. [17:58:24] ahh, I see ^^ [17:58:33] should've looked at the email :D [18:03:10] Anybody going from the venue to the hotel soon? [18:15:13] Have you left yet? Jack and I are heading back soon (re @zeljkof: Anybody going from the venue to the hotel soon?) [18:17:54] I am heasing back in a few if anyone wants to join [18:18:06] Where are you ? (re @HakanISTwm: I am heading back in a few if anyone wants to join) [18:18:14] Outside [18:22:57] Hey everyone — the Safety team would like to remind you to keep a close eye on your belongings — we've had an incident of a lost bag that may have been stolen. If you find property that does not seem to have an owner please hand it in to a member of the safety team or to venue security by the front gate. Likewise, if you lose something, please let a member of the safety team [18:22:58] know and we can help you follow up. Have fun and take care! [18:45:12] Sorry, just saw this, already at the hotel (re @Ceeeec: Have you left yet? Jack and I are heading back soon) [18:46:04] Hey all - a change in the program for tomorrow! All sessions will be in the Innovathens Building (the round 3 story building around the corner from Machine-works). Please consult the schedule. We have the entire 3 floors of Innovathens, but the sessions will be held only on the 1st and 2nd level floors above ground (above the ground level that you walk in on). [18:46:27] We should organize walking parties to the hotel every 30 minutes after 8-9 pm 😁 but I guess it's too late now [19:05:57] Apparently some of us here are into open biodiversity knowledge on Wiki (at least me, @trnstlntk and @Jdlrobson!) so I create a small iNat project to connect the observations: [19:05:58] [19:06:00] https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/wikimedia-hackathon-2023 [19:06:01] [19:06:03] It is basically just taking picture of living things and putting them under an open license + AI tools to id species + community support to identify observations. and then the fun is eventually adding info about those species to the wikisphere of course :) [19:11:00] Oh nice me too! I joined ! (re @TiagoLubiana: Apparently some of us here are into open biodiversity knowledge on Wiki (at least me, @trnstlntk and @Jdlrobson!) so I create a ...) [19:27:58] hello, everyonewe are making a gadget that helps to summarize long sections in Wikipedia articles or discussion pagesfor now it requires your OpenAI credits and API key to operate, but we are looking for alternative enginesit works as a user script, feel free to test, any feedback welcome:https://github.com/skripnik/wikipedia-section-summaries : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/0add4f4d/file_48298.jpg [19:31:05] Tomorrow morning I will be using fitness room of the hotel. If anyone is want some move can join me like 7:00 [19:32:05] The concert at Technopolis tonight is actually quite ok, I was going back to the hotel but I decided to stay for a few songs instead. A new-waveish pop duo with a Greek twist. [19:41:20]