[01:12:15] Good morning Wikimania hackers and welcome to day 2 of the Hackathon! [01:12:16] [01:12:18] Join us in Room 309 after this morning's Wikimania welcome session in the Plenary Hall. At 10:00, Santhosh Thottingal will give a talk about AI and Machine Learning in the context of Wikimedia. On the agenda: machine translation, large language models, ethical and human centered AI, and more! [02:09:37] About to start! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b9b53212/file_51072.jpg [02:10:47] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/s8yRR2xJ/ [02:10:54] James_F: ^ [02:20:57] and this [02:21:00] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uU5jigaD/ [02:42:04] REMINDER - Room 308 is available for hacking all day, every day. Lots of round tables and power plugs. And couches for conversations and collaboration. All are welcome to use it as a workspace as you don't need to be a hacker. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/c244f2e2/file_51076.jpg [02:42:06] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/dd490b80/file_51077.jpg [02:42:15] Amir1: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340892 [02:45:23] James_F: T321882 [02:45:24] T321882: Reduce number of files directly under includes/ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T321882 [02:56:03] taavi: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:ASarabadani_(WMF)/Database_for_developers_toolkit/How-to/Data_migration [03:06:04] *“*First Steps with SPARQL”starts in 10mins in room 309. [03:08:52] TODAY's HACKATHON Schedule : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e11aa3f3/file_51087.jpg [03:17:31] Come brush up on your query skills before the SPARQL CHALLENGE at 12:15, room 309! (re @Onyinye: “First Steps with SPARQL”starts in 10mins in room 309.) [03:20:34] Oh, challenge! Hopefully the stream will get up again for that. (re @blancadesal: Come brush up on your query skills before the SPARQL CHALLENGE at 12:15, room 309!) [04:43:35] Amir1: T343489 [04:43:36] T343489: Run `foreachwikiindblist wikidataclient extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php --force-protocol https` now wikifunctionswiki exists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343489 [06:07:57] Could someone with an Android phone with Google Maps instealled double-check something for me? On https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Venue if you tap on the coordinates in the second paragraph of the article ("Exact location: ...") and then on the Google Maps logo, does it open the Maps app with the Suntec building centered and pinned in it? [06:08:55] *“How to use Wikidata to build web tools for the social good” starts in a few mins in a room 309!* [06:09:44] Looks like it opens it centered, but in browser (re @gtisza: Could someone with an Android phone with Google Maps instealled double-check something for me? On https://wikimania.wikimedia.or...) [06:09:59] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6088068b/file_51116.jpg [06:11:10] Thanks. Weird, the app is supposed to intercept that link. [06:33:10] *Update*: The “Introduction to PAWS” session(previously scheduled for 3:30pm today) will be moved to 5:30pm(UTC +8) tomorrow. [07:03:15] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f55f21e9/file_51131.jpg [07:03:39] "interactive" image in wiki🏄 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9af17ad5/file_51132.jpg [07:03:40] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/99179c0c/file_51133.jpg [07:05:05] SVG? (re @bazylevnik0: "interactive" image in wiki🏄) [07:06:01] ye, show/hide template with absolute position in div (re @Jan_ainali: SVG?) [07:06:16] Any Commons interface admins around to help in adding 3d-Models user script in the gadget's list on Commons? Here is the request for the same: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadgets-definition#Promote_Userscript_3D-Models_User_Script_as_a_gadget_on_Commons #WikimaniaHackathon [07:46:48] I'm unable to move a PS from one branch to another on gerrit. Getting error [07:46:49] ``` [07:46:51] Could not perform action: move changes endpoint is disabled``` [07:46:52] . Any help with this? [09:18:47] Use the cherry-pick option from the actions dropdown. (re @Eugene233: I'm unable to move a PS from one branch to another on gerrit. Getting error [09:18:48] Could not perform action: move changes endpoint is ...) [09:19:22] Technically it will create a new change set. [20:11:51] I just received an email notifying me that an SSH key was added to my wmcloud GitLab account and that I was added to Trusted contributors. Is anyone familiar with this or should I be concerned? [20:13:18] trusted contributors is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344379 [20:13:51] is the ssh key one of your ssh keys? [20:17:19] One sec. Checking. [20:19:45] It is known [20:22:11] In the confusion I didn’t think of doing that. They match. [20:22:46] I have suggested releng announce the test [20:22:54] But well done for raising it [20:23:13] Probably a good idea. I am probably not the only person to have choked on my drink. [20:23:29] I guess you passed the completely unintended security test that also came out of sending everyone emails without telling anyone saying authentication info has changed [20:23:40] They are testing new config [20:26:00] Lol, I do work as a security consultant. I was just rushing to figure out where the hell my password could’ve been leaked. [20:26:13] False alarm. Thank you for letting me know. [20:26:39] Didn't you know even our passwords are open source these days? [20:27:23] Well, anything else would be security through obscurity which we know is bad! /s [20:28:06] Did the email contain the key info? [20:28:37] It just said “ssh key”, which was just more cause for concern. [20:29:08] You can get the keys from https://gitlab.devtools.wmcloud.org/deni.keys [20:29:09] Pff, fingerprint and comment would have been nice [20:29:38] Phabricator ticket no. would be 👌 [20:29:54] Spitzenklasse [20:31:57] I feel a bit uncomfortable having ssh public keys world readable on the internet. Did the security team sign off on this? (re @wmtelegram_bot: Didn't you know even our passwords are open source these days?) [20:32:30] Public keys are well safe to be public :) [20:32:40] You can't do anything with a public key [20:32:50] I really don’t know, but this is common practice. See https://github.com/deni.keys or https://whoami.filippo.io [20:33:06] https://github.com/multichill.keys [20:33:33] Reedy: What key size is that?! [20:34:23] Oh, nevermind. My formatting was off. [20:34:58] No direct attack, sure. But side channel. I generally have multiple keys with single purpose. At least the comment has been stripped off.... [20:37:53] The threat is not worth worrying about [20:38:37] If you're worried, I wouldn't use any wikimedia site given all of SRE have all their keys available in one file [20:38:43] That's really easy to parse [20:39:55] There shouldn’t be need to worry. The practice of public SSH keys is widely accepted. There are some privacy-implications but that should be it.