[00:02:59] Last year we had that covered (re @Susannaanas: Ah, if the scholarship recipients have Sunday night covered, I think we should accommodate to that, so that no-one should need t...) [07:13:05] We will program the event so that it takes into account the travel from Tallinn in the morning. And we might recommend taking the ferry line Viking Line whose terminal is nearby. (re @ferdi2005: Last year we had that covered) [09:23:47] Another friendly reminder that the #wmhack scholarship application deadline is TOMORROW (January 5th 2024). Don’t delay in sending in your application! TY😬 (re @Onyinye: Hi Everyone! Just a friendly reminder that the deadline for the Scholarship Application is only 3 DAYS away!!😬 If you’re conside...) [14:22:33] Everyone should not delay. But what is the exact closing timezone. For example: Wikimania had closing time as “Anywhere on Earth”. (re @Onyinye: Another friendly reminder that the #wmhack scholarship application deadline is TOMORROW (January 5th 2024). Don’t delay in sendi...) [14:24:47] Same - Anywhere on earth. (re @Jayprakash12345: Everyone should not delay. But what is the exact closing timezone. For example: Wikimania had closing time as “Anywhere on Earth...) [14:53:13] That’s why we have UTC (re @Onyinye: Same - Anywhere on earth.) [15:13:25] No, that has nothing to do with UTC [19:09:18] Hey y'all. I'm a tech volunteer at WM France and spent the last months laying foundations for a technical rework of Lingua Libre. Now that it's down, I'd like to move most of our tasks from our internal project management software to Phaby. I don't mind doing that manually - as our tasks are in French not English, however I would like to be able to manage the work board of Lingua [19:09:18] Libre on Phaby (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/3393/), as I need to change columns, add milestones, change descriptions and all that. [19:09:20] I used to be able to do that, but now I can't and I can't find out why . [19:12:35] What's your Phabricator username [19:13:09] Here's the link to my account https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Poslovitch/ [19:14:36] Try now [19:15:05] I added you to trusted contributors which should give you rights to edit a few more project things [19:21:40] Oh great, thank you! [19:21:41] I can't create Milestones but based on the history of those we already have, I guess it requires submitting a request somewhere. Fine, that'll do. [19:21:51] Thank you again 🙂 [21:44:15] Thanks! See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects [21:52:28] yup, stumbled onto that, but I can't say I understood much from it :( [21:52:29] With Lingua Libre we've currently got two concurrent needs for our workboard: [21:52:30] 1) keep track of maintenance-related issues for existing stuff, which will then become entirely decommissioned (so would that entail "deleting" the columns?) as we will decommission everything MediaWiki-related (extensions, skins) [21:52:32] 2) keep track of feature requests and bug reports for the new-currently-in-progress stuff [21:52:33] I'm honestly quite afraid of touching a single thing by fear of messing everything up, or cluttering the Lingua Libre workboard with a dozen more columns [22:20:57] If you don't understand much of it, then I wonder what is unclear [22:21:14] 2) There are task types for feature requests and bug reports to differentiate: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Tasks . No need for more columns. [22:21:48] 1) There is a project tag #worktype-maintenance for "maintenance-related issues". No need for more columns. [22:22:37] There is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Phabricator/Help for general questions about Phab, linked from the Phab frontpage. [22:26:01] That's not what I meant - I know Bug & Feature are their own types. [22:26:02] My issue is: I have no clue how to « convert » my needs into something that « fits » into how Phaby works, i.e. how to have a workboard that works without you coming by a few weeks later and reverting everything because it breaks i-dont-know-what-metrics or ignores i-dont-know-what-rule about how workboard/projects are expected to be managed on Phaby. [22:26:03] And as everything in Phaby is « permanent », I don't want to risk cluttering the Lingua Libre workboard with dozens of columns or projects or tasks or whatever that do not follow the guidelines because I have trouble making sense of them and, as I said, « translating » my needs into something that « fits » on Phaby. [22:30:04] As I'm just blatantly lost rn, what stuff would you need to know to make sense of my ramblings? [22:51:19] I don't know why you'd expect anyone to "come by and revert everything because it breaks i-dont-know-what-metrics or ignores i-dont-know-what-rule". Have you experienced that before? [22:51:52] So if you don't want to clutter, don't create columns? :) But I don't know which problem you're trying to solve, so far. [22:52:43] It would be helpful to get a description of a problem to solve. [23:05:14] I'm probably mixing things up with this whole revert thing - and I sincerely apologize if this may have sounded rude. [23:05:44] I'll try to put things in layman's terms as I guess I'm mixing things up as well in that matter [23:06:46] Lingua Libre is currently undergoing a technical rework. [23:06:47] That means we have the "current" Lingua Libre - the one which is currently available online and has been for years [23:06:48] And the "new" Lingua Libre - which is under development [23:07:42] Thing is, these two Lingua Libre are, from a technical standpoint, entirely different. [23:10:05] The current one is a self-hosted MediaWiki and a bunch of custom-made MediaWiki extensions (RecordWizard, BlueLL, QueryViz to name a few). [23:10:06] On our current workboard on Phaby, they're all pretty much handled as their own columns. Actually, RecordWizard has two, QueryViz is mixed up with other stuff - it's a bit of mess. [23:10:08] Anyway, all of them are handled in the Lingua Libre project/workboard. [23:10:09] Feature requests, bug reports, "epics", everything is put there and dispatched in the appropriate columns depending on which extension it relies [23:12:40] The new Lingua Libre no longer is a MediaWiki, that means that once we do the switch, we'll decommission all the extensions. [23:12:41] In the meantime, we still need a way to track "maintenance" tasks that pertain to these extensions. Things like bug reports or the tasks we get from time to time as we're using APIs that get deprecated and the likes. [23:13:53] And, we want to put all the tasks (feature requests, epics, user stories) relating to the "new" Lingua Libre on Phabricator as well, so that the progress is visible to everyone and anyone can pitch in [23:15:17] I hope that's a better explanation? And I apologize again, re-reading my previous message, it's clear to me I was being rude, really sorry about that.