[01:10:19] Hello everyone ! Please what are the documents needed for the visa application ? If anyone ever attended a wikimedia conference in the EU and had applied for a visa please give us details 🙏 [01:11:37] https://www.vm.ee/en/consular-visa-and-travel-information/visa-information/application-schengen-visa [08:19:46] I'd expect these things to be linked from the wiki page. (re @zachary2952: Hello everyone ! Please what are the documents needed for the visa application ? If anyone ever attended a wikimedia conference ...) [14:21:11] Can an event created on Meta has no end time? [14:21:43] Philosophically, no :) (re @cvictorovich: Can an event created on Meta has no end time?) [14:21:48] I’d like to create a long term project / campaign [14:22:11] For it involves constant work [14:23:58] Or, it won’t end in foreseeable time [14:24:52] Sounds like it isn't _one_ event then, but many connected. [14:26:50] I’m going to launch a campaign, in which many many people translate FA / GA articles from various languages to English (re @Jan_ainali: Sounds like it isn't one event then, but many connected.) [14:27:22] Of course, it requires users who understand source languages and English [14:28:25] Yeah, the launch is one event. Editathons on this topic would each be an event. (re @cvictorovich: I’m going to launch a campaign, in which many many people translate FA / GA articles from various languages to English) [14:28:45] This topic? (re @Jan_ainali: Yeah, the launch is one event. Editathons on this topic would each be an event.) [14:29:06] Translating featured articles [14:29:06] Each edition has different good or featured articles [14:29:30] Good. [14:29:50] My campaign is about translating those articles into English [14:30:22] Because I can barely find people who are proficient in English and another language [14:31:00] As for me, I’m proficient in Chinese and English, and I can only translate from English [14:31:22] I also understand French but not in professional context [14:36:47] I wonder how useful the calendar would be if every WikiProject listed themselves as having ongoing work that never ends. Everyday would have hundreds of entries and it would be impossible to see anything that happened only one day unless it was possible to filter out all of that. [14:37:24] And reverse is also okay (translate good and featured articles on English edition to other languages) [14:37:53] Especially those editions that are too weak to develop there own good contents [14:38:30] Hence it would never end (re @Jan_ainali: I wonder how useful the calendar would be if every WikiProject listed themselves as having ongoing work that never ends. Everyda...) [14:38:44] (Philosophically [14:39:09] And also the reason why we should not allow it. Practically. [14:39:57] Oh, there aren’t many good and featured articles on any sites (re @Jan_ainali: I wonder how useful the calendar would be if every WikiProject listed themselves as having ongoing work that never ends. Everyda...) [14:40:09] In the sense of portion [14:42:54] 1 in 1,000+ [14:43:14] The events calendar should be exclusive to things that "happens" and has a specific start and end date. Arguably, not even Wiki Loves Monuments should qualify, as it is not really anything that "happens". A launch stream, a workshop for beginners, a photo walk, the prize ceremony, all of them would fit. [14:47:20] Specific… I don’t have specific calendars, despite I know what I’m willing to do [15:00:08] An alternative choice is making it a recurring event happening once a year, each lasting for one year [15:47:13] Sounds more like WikiProjects and not like an event? [15:47:38] (How is it related to hacking?) [16:00:47] (On a meta level he is "hacking" the event tool to use for wikiprojects 😆 ) (re @malyacko: (How is it related to hacking?)) [17:38:19] Any guys know arabic here? [17:41:29] There'll definitely be a few people (not me) [17:47:14] Actually, I made a tool for hosting edit-a-thons which needs some translation verification (machine translated version). [17:47:58] 👏👏👏 impressive! (re @nokibsarkar: Actually, I made a tool for hosting edit-a-thons which needs some translation verification (machine translated version).) [17:48:44] You guys are welcome to have a look at https://tools.wikilovesfolklore.org [17:49:33] And also, if anyone wants, he/she can contribute by verifying any machine translation [18:34:03] Me 🙂 (re @nokibsarkar: Any guys know arabic here?) [18:34:35] Can you help me verifying the translation? (re @Osps7: Me 🙂) [18:35:06] Absolutely [18:35:48] Please, login on the campwiz tool nad explore choosing your language (re @Osps7: Absolutely) [18:36:18] https://tools.wikilovesfolklore.org/campwiz [18:37:07] This tool does not do any edit and more importantly, it does not collect any PII except your Wikipedia username [18:37:34] PII = Personally Identifiable Information [18:37:47] It is just read-only [18:39:15] There are some terms that have been translated literally, but the language works well and is understandable to any Arab person or someone who is proficient in the Arabic language. [18:39:43] Which terms? Also, you can directly translate them, if you want [18:40:34] On the language selection panel, scroll to the bottom and you would see `+ Add Language` in Arabic [18:41:18] The existing Arabic language is well understood, I don't think it needs any repair [18:42:04] Then you can click there, and close that panel. You should see the language selection box. You can select Arabic as language, and all the strings would be listed in a user-friendly way [18:42:30] Ok. So, can I remove the `(experimental)` flag? (re @Osps7: The existing Arabic language is well understood, I don't think it needs any repair) [18:44:37] Yes, you can. [18:44:38] Also, If you need someone who speaks Azerbaijani or Hebrew, I can help. [18:44:51] Awesome (re @Osps7: Yes, you can. [18:44:51] Also, If you need someone who speaks Azerbaijani or Hebrew, I can help.) [18:45:03] Of course, any kind of contribution is more than wekcome [18:45:18] Can you speak in Azerbijani too? [18:45:29] Yes (re @nokibsarkar: Can you speak in Azerbijani too?) [18:45:30] * I mean, understand [18:46:07] I guess, it would be nice if you go the translation interface and select azerbijani interface as language [18:48:05] On language selection panel, go to the bottom and click on add language. Then close the panel. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b22a7cc7/file_57159.jpg [18:52:05] I think it's better to move this conversation to the relevant group/space [18:52:06] So that people don't get confused, considering the fact that hackathon scholarships are out now and people have a lot of questions (re @nokibsarkar: On language selection panel, go to the bottom and click on add language. Then close the panel.) [18:53:14] If you have any question/suggestion/clarification about this particular tool, you're more than welcome to ask in this group: https://t.me/+6EE25tXwvQQ4MGE9 (re @nokibsarkar: On language selection panel, go to the bottom and click on add language. Then close the panel.) [21:34:06] I can help too (re @nokibsarkar: Can you speak in Azerbijani too?) [21:34:19] Wow [21:34:35] Sure. Which language you want to contribute? [21:34:50] azerbaijani [21:36:02] Can you just go to the tool at https://tools.wikilovesfolklore.org/ and can understand by just exploring. We are translating the campwiz tool. [21:48:35] And also, anyone interested are most cordially welcome to have a look and (if wishes) to contribute in the interface translation or any other types of feedbacks. The tool is just a step toward sustainable wikipedia tool ecosystem. The toolkit has two tools: The first one is for Generating list articles that are existent in English wikipedia but missing in a native language based [21:48:35] on topic. It is very useful to various editathon organizers to generate a list. The second one is CampWiz, a one stop solution for hosting editathons, evaluation, results statistics. It can calculate how many words the user actually added within the competition and have many exciting features. The UI is also multilingual and I think, can be used by even beginners. You are all wel [21:48:36] come to the toolkit: https://tools.wikilovesfolklore.org/ [22:41:27] @nokibsarkar: I'm just curious, is there any particular reason you are self-hosting those tools instead of using Toolforge or Cloud VPS? Hosting in our movement's infrastructure is also something that helps keep the tools ecosystem sustainable.