[18:24:30] hello! We have noticed that links on social media are not loading the og:image, but I can't know the extent of the problem. Could someone help with this? Thanks! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T359413 [18:58:14] bayağı olmuştu o ya [19:52:57] This channel is not a general purpose Wikimedia or MediaWiki support channel. Please keep discussions on topic for Wikimedia Hackathon events and closely related work by technical volunteers. [19:53:03] (re @bd808: This channel is not a general purpose Wikimedia or MediaWiki support channel. Please keep discussions on topic for Wikimedia Hac...) [20:03:04] This channel has always was the de facto place where you go with technical Wikimedia questions, for years so. I am not sure why the need to change it now. Ofc non-WM MW questions are a different story (re @bd808: This channel is not a general purpose Wikimedia or MediaWiki support channel. Please keep discussions on topic for Wikimedia Hac...) [20:05:34] AFAIK, you may ask but you will be redirected to the right channel / instance to get help... [20:09:00] But there isn't a better channel o Telegram for most technical questions. And ithas always worked here. (re @dennistobar: AFAIK, you may ask but you will be redirected to the right channel / instance to get help...) [20:11:50] @Thecladis: your assumptions and shared reality may differ. I've been the "owner" of this irc channel for ~5 years or so. I also originated the irc<->telegram bridge here. The named intent of the channel has always been #wmhack work and related discussions. [20:13:02] There is nothing wrong with asking technical questions here, but there is very much something wrong with reporting Wikimedia production errors and expecting others to do the work of moving things to Phabricator [20:13:18] The IRC part yeah, and on IRC side there are better channels to go to. But on tg side no. (re @wmtelegram_bot: @Thecladis: your assumptions and shared reality may differ. I've been the "owner" of this irc channel for ~5 years or so...) [20:13:31] Why? (re @wmtelegram_bot: There is nothing wrong with asking technical questions here, but there is very much something wrong with reporting Wikim...) [20:14:28] Because none of us are here to do that support work. Not sure how this is confusing. [20:17:20] That is wrong. I am myself both asking questions and replying questions here occasionally. If someone reports something that is not on phab yet, there is still a better chance that people here would be able to report it properly. I've had too many instances of asking someone to report something themselves just to end up with having to get involved myself because Andre instaclosed [20:17:21] their task. (re @wmtelegram_bot: Because none of us are here to do that support work. Not sure how this is confusing.) [20:17:39] (Or asked them questions they do not understand) [20:18:42] There is also evidence that it is not just myself who has such opinion :) (re @amire80: It's a good place to post.) [20:18:59] If you would like to personally staff a Wikimedia production error support room on Telegram, please do! But please do not assume that any room you wander into will share that purpose. [20:19:02] I do think that this channel has been going increasingly off-topic. [20:19:35] That does seem something to take fix at some point [20:19:56] I am in this channel since thr Vienna hackathon I think. It is not going more off-topic than it ever did (re @djhartman: I do think that this channel has been going increasingly off-topic.) [20:20:23] I'm here since 2013 and it is more and more off topic in the last weeks [20:20:42] If you do not want to answer some questions you are welcome not to, but there are people who are happy to, and it is not just myself who is (re @wmtelegram_bot: If you would like to personally staff a Wikimedia production error support room on Telegram, please do! But please do no...) [20:21:27] @Thecladis: That's great. YOu have a seed group for your new support channel. [20:23:02] 340 days out of 365 there is not Wikimedia Hackathon happening. Technically all the communication in that timespan is off-topic, but de facto it has always been fine [20:23:35] Telegram did not exist in 2013 I think. As I said it is indeed different on the IRC side. (re @wmtelegram_bot: I'm here since 2013 and it is more and more off topic in the last weeks) [20:25:33] Intersctions like this happen in this channel all the time and they bring value to the Wikimedia movement. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e6c59246/file_58558.jpg [20:25:35] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/be7c8691/file_58559.jpg [21:04:03] If this is because of my question, I'm sorry, but this is the channel I know for "very" technical issues, which are beyond the knowledge in other more general chats. Also, I normally report issues first at Phabricator, but most of the times this is a good place to get the attention which could take months or even years there. (re @bd808: This channel is not a general purpose Wiki [21:04:05] media or MediaWiki support channel. Please keep discussions on topic for Wikimedia Hac...)