[05:54:28] and the other 8%? (re @tehreedy: >22 Dec 2022 — Cash and cards are used for an equal share of payments at points of sale in Estonia, as both are used for 46% of ...) [07:59:03] In the Netherlands smartphones are surpassing contactless payment with card already [08:14:20] What's the weather in Estonia? I have no clue as to which type of clothes to bring. In my country, we are experiencing heat wave of about 43+ degree Celsius each day. [08:16:04] https://www.accuweather.com/en/ee/tallinn/127964/weather-forecast/127964 (re @nokibsarkar: What's the weather in Estonia? I have no clue as to which type of clothes to bring. In my country, we are experiencing heat wave...) [08:19:40] Based on this forecast, I'm packing a hoodie and long-sleeve shirt. [08:21:48] Be aware that 20 is todays forecast. Hackathon dates are more like 10 to 15 degrees [08:23:45] Warm clothes then? (re @Neslihan: Be aware that 20 is todays forecast. Hackathon dates are more like 10 to 15 degrees) [08:24:26] We have the lowest as 17 degree here. [08:25:03] I mean I am not very cold resistant and can't be a reference but I will bring warm clothes. Can be nice to have layers [08:25:46] I am from mild weather. So, I must bring warm clothes. [08:37:43] "balanced weather" is not NPOV (re @nokibsarkar: I am from balanced weather. So, I must bring warm clothes.) [08:38:48] *tropical monsoon climate* (re @Galder: "balanced weather" is not NPOV) [08:39:22] I don't think it is very comprehensive [08:39:55] Balanced means no extreme. Like not too hot, not too cold. [08:40:49] In bangla, নাতিশীতোষ্ণ literally means "not too hot, not too cold" [09:23:09] I assume hayfever is less of an issue due to being near to the sea? [09:55:05] yet you just said that it's 43°C in april 😶 that's hotter than most european countries have *ever* experienced, never mind in april (re @nokibsarkar: In bangla, নাতিশীতোষ্ণ literally means "not too hot, not too cold") [09:55:36] I haven't noticed the sea helping. Assuming the situation in Tallinn is more or less the same as in Helsinki, there's "abundant" birch pollen: "Birch pollen is long-range transported in [Helsinki]. Local birch flowering is expected to start in the warmest habitats in [Helsinki]." (re @sjoerddebruin: I assume hayfever is less of an issue due to being near to [09:55:36] the sea?) [10:00:08] 🥶 It was snowing in Helsinki a week ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6G7h5lN23i/?igsh=OTk2dDRkdXQ5aWVk [10:01:22] It was a winter that stayed for one day... (re @Tohaomg: 🥶 It was snowing in Helsinki a week ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6G7h5lN23i/) [10:02:00] I can still see (a very tiny patch of) snow from my window [10:02:48] it probably depends a lot on which pollens are a problem for you and how common those plants are there (re @sjoerddebruin: I assume hayfever is less of an issue due to being near to the sea?) [10:03:28] I will bring pills anyway, I still need to contact my GP to get a list… [10:32:56] It is heat wave this year due to global warming. It just turned like a desert (re @Nikki: yet you just said that it's 43°C in april 😶 that's hotter than most european countries have *ever* experienced, never mind in ap...) [10:33:22] This is the first time I've heard schools being closed due to extreme heat [10:33:55] But in general, we face balanced [10:42:31] Quick question. Is the distance from the Tallinn airport to hiilton hotel approx 10 minutes by car? [10:43:06] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/28d2b9bc/file_60233.jpg [10:49:18] @tehreedy are you coming to hackathon? [11:01:11] Seems like it! (re @Magioladitis: Quick question. Is the distance from the Tallinn airport to hiilton hotel approx 10 minutes by car?) [11:01:33] I could even personally walk that distance [11:18:25] that's still completely subjective. maybe you find it balanced because that's what you're used to, plenty of people from other places would say it's a very hot country (looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Bangladesh#Climate, that would be like a heatwave almost all year round for me) (re @nokibsarkar: But in general, we face balanced) [11:19:41] In that section, "April is the hottest month in most parts of the country. " (re @Nikki: that's still completely subjective. maybe you find it balanced because that's what you're used to, plenty of people from other p...) [11:21:13] So, it is the highest temperature we experience. And, this temperature is even too hot for us natives because, previously it did not feel like this hot. [11:21:29] We don't sweat in the northern area due to humidity [11:21:53] the point I'm making is that the average temperature in *all* months is high [11:24:24] Oh, that is a point though [11:24:45] Oh, that is a point though (re @Nikki: the point I'm making is that the average temperature in *all* months is high) [11:25:18] But we neither have any snow nor any desert. [11:25:56] Though, recently, the bank of the rivers are drying up and looks like being a desert. [11:26:10] Due to temperature increase [11:26:51] We also have enough rain. [11:27:01] Enough sunlight [12:28:16] Can we have a separate channel for social chatting? [12:30:59] yeah, 0 ºC is the better: neither cold or hot. (re @nokibsarkar: Balanced means no extreme. Like not too hot, not too cold.) [13:01:44] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e0a4ba6b/friends_friendstv.mp4 [13:02:46] I am arriving at 2 am so i prefer to stay alive (re @sjoerddebruin: I could even personally walk that distance) [13:21:27] That was not known to me at that time and wasn’t a proposal, just a general comment (re @Magioladitis: I am arriving at 2 am so i prefer to stay alive) [13:37:04] Another general comment: walking in the night doesn't get you killed - Tallinn is very safe (re @Magioladitis: I am arriving at 2 am so i prefer to stay alive) [13:37:37] I know hehe (re @sjoerddebruin: That was not known to me at that time and wasn’t a proposal, just a general comment) [16:00:18] We're now in Tartu and there was a 'wiki sysyphus' event as part of studentdays.ee. [22:44:35] I'll probably walk out the TLL airport after midnight. So no bus for me, I guess, only taxi? And should it be taxi or Bolt? [22:45:33] Seemingly, yeah [22:45:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2024/Travel#Taxis_and_Rideshares [23:05:36] >Welcome to Hilton Tallinn Park! [23:05:37] I'm not there yet!!! [23:05:41] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/8add226c/Hotel_Guide.pdf [23:09:48] If anyone has any specific requests of stuff from the UK (I'll bring dairy milk, as per usual), you've got like 24 hours or so ;) [23:10:08] ooh, bot bug. it only links the first file [23:11:16] T363777 [23:11:17] T363777: Bot seemingly only links 1 file if > 1 uploaded in the same message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363777 [23:13:13] strange, I can’t find an existing upstream issue for it [23:13:22] (I would assume it affects matterbridge in general) [23:13:39] (but what do I know… *something* about tools-static in there is clearly custom ;)) [23:14:10] THOU SHALT MUST ONLY ONE UPLOAD AT A TIME [23:15:19] “patience, my young padawan.”