[02:19:50] Apparently that's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_salad. Needs a source though. (re @kemayo: Oh good, you got the “American salad” 😂) [03:41:12] This was a rich source of conversation with the people I dined with as well. I enjoyed explaining that as an American I had no idea what it was. It reminded me of macaroni salad without the macaroni. [04:31:42] No (re @wfan219: Is the food in hotel room free of charge, I guess not? 😅) [04:33:23] Not many people were at the gym at 7. 😁 Now let's see the pool [04:33:31] / [04:38:42] Do you need to pay? (re @tuukkahastrup: Not many people were at the gym at 7. 😁 Now let's see the pool) [04:43:54] I am not staying at the hotel. I should be there at 9:30 right? I dont remember the time and im panicking🤣🤣🤣 [04:45:32] https://t.me/RexiCatBot/RexieApp?startapp=zombie-repellent [04:45:56] what is this (re @sl: https://t.me/RexiCatBot/RexieApp?startapp=zombie-repellent) [04:46:08] Spam, someone should remove him [04:47:22] Done (re @sjoerddebruin: Spam, someone should remove him) [04:48:45] Yes - the opening ceremony starts at 9:30am, please arrive a bit before so you can get settled, get a coffee or tea, and find a seat! (re @Amanda: I am not staying at the hotel. I should be there at 9:30 right? I dont remember the time and im panicking🤣🤣🤣) [04:51:24] Thankss [04:56:06] welcome (re @sunafterrainwm: ) [04:57:38] I heard someone here has been posting photos of delicious food, so I came to take a peek and enjoy the drama (lol). [05:00:23] hello [05:06:32] No fee. But in the pool you need to wear a swimming cap (swimsuit optional 🤣). And make sure to use the showers next to the pool, or you may be interrogated where you took the shower before entering the pool. There are also Turkish and Finnish saunas! 🧖 (re @EdwardBetts: Do you need to pay?) [05:16:01] Is breakfast in the same room as we ate last night? [05:16:20] that's what I was told last night (re @tehreedy: Is breakfast in the same room as we ate last night?) [05:16:48] except only included for scholars (and maybe staff?) [05:17:03] lunch and dinner are everyone [05:21:05] I see a tennis match going out my window [05:39:21] They didn’t do any sort of identity verification when I went down to eat breakfast, so it might be included for anyone who’s staying in the hotel. [05:44:38] Breakfast is included with your hotel room reservation! [06:08:57] *Please stop by the *registration desk* to check in and collect your badge. Thanks* [06:13:25] Reminder! We have coffee / tea in the foyer right outside the ballroom - we’ll start right at 9:30am! [06:15:17] So where did you find a cap? (re @tuukkahastrup: No fee. But in the pool you need to wear a swimming cap (swimsuit supposedly optional 🤣). And make sure to use the showers next ...) [06:16:19] Is anyone else having trouble staying connected to the Wikimedia wifi? I get kicked off after about 5 mins. [06:16:19] Is there a supermarket around here? [06:20:08] haven't tried yet... where do i find the password? (re @freosam: Is anyone else having trouble staying connected to the Wikimedia wifi? I get kicked off after about 5 mins.) [06:20:49] Welcome2Hack! [06:21:52] If you have not registered yet - please do it now! opening ceremony starts in 10 minutes! [06:22:09] I went to this one, small but had the necessities [06:22:09] https://maps.app.goo.gl/1z8vdBWBVpGNjA3Z9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy (re @Wasp_Outis: Is there a supermarket around here?) [06:22:43] You can reach Migros supermarket within a few minutes walking distance. [06:22:45] https://maps.app.goo.gl/ER4zfpJ6nkVAinms7 (re @Daniel: haven't tried yet... where do i find the password?) [06:22:59] How much was it to buy one? (I already had one) (re @bozzy: P.S. if you go to the swimming pool @ -2, bring with you money to buy the mandatory head cuff) [06:23:37] You can find different markets more closer to you, but this is the supermarket (re @bekobyrm: You can reach Migros supermarket within a few minutes walking distance. [06:23:37] https://maps.app.goo.gl/ER4zfpJ6nkVAinms7) [06:24:28] that didn't work for me... (re @Erin: Welcome2Hack!) [06:24:31] Thankyou (re @Nikki: I went to this one, small but had the necessities [06:24:31] https://maps.app.goo.gl/1z8vdBWBVpGNjA3Z9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy) [06:28:19] My session has been moved to today at 11:45: [06:28:19] Semantic MediaWiki: building a knowledge graph with MediaWiki (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T392757) [06:28:21] I will introduce Semantic MediaWiki and we will talk about how to turn your MediaWiki based knowledge base into a knowledge graph and compare SMW to Wikibase. [06:31:07] punctuation inclusive? (re @Daniel: that didn't work for me...) [06:36:13] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f58ff404/file_70295.jpg [06:40:04] Sweets table already in place! 🥳 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/1ad16638/file_70296.jpg [06:43:31] They synchronised : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/ac880205/file_70297.jpg [06:44:06] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/593e2309/file_70298.jpg [06:44:46] could somebody please paste the wifi password here? [06:45:52] Off by one area (re @EdwardBetts: They synchronised) [06:46:01] Wikimedia / Welcome2Hack! (re @wmtelegram_bot: could somebody please paste the wifi password here?) [06:46:13] thanks [06:46:13] (Including the exclamation mark) [06:48:40] @IsmaelOlea do we have an area yet for the Unconference session? [06:54:02] Very cheap, less than ~2€ (or less than €2000, maybe I was scammed, I don't have receipt 👍 but I've seen a "2" and "EUR" in the cash register lol) (re @tuukkahastrup: How much was it to buy one? (I already had one)) [06:56:43] For any Trust and safety concern during the hackathon 2025. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/88627a20/file_70299.jpg [06:58:17] doh! (re @jeremy_b: punctuation inclusive?) [07:02:11] ^ @waldyrious Daniel. At the entrance to the gym and spa area (re @bozzy: Very cheap, less than ~2€ (or less than €2000, maybe I was scammed, I don't have receipt 👍 but I've seen a "2" and "EUR" in the ...) [07:05:11] Is anyone taking notes about the project pitches? Is there an Etherpad? [07:05:16] Lucas Werkmeister: [07:05:18] * might work on making language names translatable (T231755) [07:05:19] * want to move a project from GitHub to Wikimedia GitLab, could use help from people who know about GitLab CI and doc.wikimedia.org (T392290) [07:05:21] * contact me or Taavi if you want an invite code for the wikis.world Mastodon server :) [07:05:37] the etherpad is at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Opening but I believe we’re supposed to post our pitches in this channel (re @waldyrious: Is anyone taking notes about the project pitches? Is there an Etherpad?) [07:06:59] I'll start taking some notes on the Etherpad — anyone who can help keep up, please do! [07:11:57] The un conference session is at Ankara room. (re @Superraptor123: @IsmaelOlea do we have an area yet for the Unconference session?) [07:13:25] the unconference sessions will be in both rooms on the lobby level as the sessions are also! [07:13:42] please refer to the schedule on wiki! [07:14:52] More ideas and pitches on the way : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/1f9afe92/file_70302.jpg [07:15:23] And it's in the schedule wiki :) (re @IsmaelOlea: The un conference session is at Ankara room.) [07:15:27] 1006 now (re @EdwardBetts: They synchronised) [07:16:01] 897 on this table [07:20:42] Also: who was talking about the citation project? I'd be interested as I'm thinking about working on an RDA/BIBFRAME/MARC/FRBR pipeline that could intersect. [07:22:50] @harej @diegodlh ? (re @Superraptor123: Also: who was talking about the citation project? I'd be interested as I'm thinking about working on an RDA/BIBFRAME/MARC/FRBR p...) [07:23:15] no ipv6 support on the hackathon network? :( [07:25:49] Bernhard Krabina, join me in my session about SemanticMediaWiki and how to turn your MediaWiki into a Knowledge Graph today at 11:45. [07:25:49] If you want to work on some SMW related extensions, feel free to reach out. Especially I would like to improve 1.43 compatibility. [07:28:15] see, I knew @Ladsgroup wouldn’t need the extra time :P [07:28:35] incorporation by reference (re @lucaswerkmeister: see, I knew @Ladsgroup wouldn’t need the extra time :P) [07:28:48] aka transclusion [07:29:10] reminder, everyone who’s pitching projects is welcome to go to https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Opening and improve our transcript of their pitch :) [07:30:28] to re-do my pitch here: we're in the progress of deploying Parsoid as default parser for all wikis; if you have any question or concern about Parsoid compatibility with your bots, gadgets, workflows, how to test that, how to make it work, talk to me :) (and i'll put that on the etherpad too) [07:33:51] Is there a gerrit hashtag for the hackathon? [07:38:42] venue wifi acting up for anyone else? it's sometimes being slow and sometimes just not connecting to sites [07:39:32] we are having some issues with the wifi, apologies, and it should be more stable soon! [07:40:11] gotcha, thanks! :) [07:40:23] as a reminder - IRC and this Telegram group are linked up, so whatever shows on one, the other will have too!👍 [07:40:48] @mszabo_fandom and I are taking opposite approaches to being easily recognizable by our outfits https://wikis.world/@LucasWerkmeister/114437032801513468 [07:42:14] yeah, telegram was taking so long to load so i just used IRC instead 😂 (re @deb_t: as a reminder - IRC and this Telegram group are linked up, so whatever shows on one, the other will have too!👍) [07:43:42] Oh, and if anyone wants the rights to be able to enable 2FA on their SUL account, I can make that happen too [07:45:39] Maybe collect projects on a wiki page? (re @waldyrious: I'll start taking some notes on the Etherpad — anyone who can help keep up, please do!) [07:47:25] re-pitching here, if you have questions/need help/want to chat about toolforge or cloud vps hosting for tools reach out to me or arturo or taavi, there's an unconference today at 12:30 about latest features there, and a workshop at 14:00 in case you want help with getting started/setting something up. And if you are interested on helping with the toolforge UI/striker 2.0 redesign reach out to me or sarai, cheers! [07:49:42] ^ bd808 can also help with anything of the above! :) [07:50:09] I would like to connect with Kimberly. [07:50:20] @deb_t can you ask people who presented pitches to add/update the info on the Etherpad? https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Opening [07:50:55] hm, did we skip the part for unrecorded pitches? (or was there nobody who didn’t want to be recorded?) [07:50:55] The internet is quite slow at this hackathon [07:51:10] I think red lanyard people took them off at least [07:51:22] but wait there is two pairs of cat ears in the room :p (re @lucaswerkmeister: @mszabo_fandom and I are taking opposite approaches to being easily recognizable by our outfits https://wikis.world/@LucasWerkme...) [07:51:26] Can't hear debt :( [07:51:41] etherpad for pitches: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Opening [07:52:33] (I think there should be a block for almost everyone, but some of the blocks are mostly empty and also some names are missing, misspelled, etc.) [07:52:46] (we tried our best but it’s difficult ^^) [07:56:45] Internet is unusable [07:57:18] +1 (re @EdwardBetts: Internet is unusable) [07:59:27] Does anyone know who was talking about the Codex sandboxing stuff? [07:59:48] I'm not on site but if I can help online (on Wikidata/Wikisource/etc.) feel free to contact me [08:06:30] I would like to know more about the extension project for flagging outdated language. [08:09:04] Slides (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Hackathon_-_Opening_Ceremony_-_Istanbul,_Turkey,_May_2,_2025.pdf) and video (https://www.youtube.com/live/0HHNirvItr8) of the opening ceremony have been uploaded and available by link in the schedule (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Friday,_May_2nd), etherpad (https [08:09:04] //etherpad.wikimedia.org/ [08:09:04] p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Opening), and phab task (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391685)! Thanks for everyone that gave project pitches and hanging with us while we had a few technical difficulties! [08:15:39] I want to find out more about the wiki loves folklore project [08:18:38] https://www.youtube.com/live/0HHNirvItr8?si=dvZz2_OtQQ0CcA4H [08:18:39] Here is the 30 second presentations video [08:19:11] https://www.youtube.com/live/0HHNirvItr8 [08:19:12] with less tracking (re @bekobyrm: https://www.youtube.com/live/0HHNirvItr8?si=dvZz2_OtQQ0CcA4H [08:19:13] Here is the 30 second presentations video) [08:23:06] Recommendations on lightweight and easy to use js libraries for plotting and making graphs? :D [08:24:37] internet speed is much better now [08:25:08] Holly (re @theprotonade: Does anyone know who was talking about the Codex sandboxing stuff?) [08:26:25] idk exactly about lightweight but simile has looked interesting. haven't used it myself. https://www.simile-widgets.org/ (re @arcstur: Recommendations on lightweight and easy to use js libraries for plotting and making graphs? :D) [08:28:58] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T388910 (re @theprotonade: Does anyone know who was talking about the Codex sandboxing stuff?) [08:30:36] for the games session: https://github.com/blinry/wikidata-guessr is the Wikidata geoguessr game [08:36:59] (since 3 people are asking for it) [08:37:00] If you need your own vertical generative AI, that only does what you want, and does not do what do you do not want, and knows *your* data, and can call Python things on-demand, look at this open source project made in Italy. You're welcome 😁 [08:37:01] https://cheshirecat.ai/ [08:37:46] Basically it's AI-agnostic, so you can switch-off the brain and use ChatGPT (proprietary) or your own LLAMA, etc. [08:39:02] Hi, I need help with developing an Echo notification and deploying it. [08:42:31] I'm trying to get in touch with Kimberly sarabia ,can someone help? [08:45:59] Hello! I am in the main hackathon room from this morning (re @Superraptor123: Also: who was talking about the citation project? I'd be interested as I'm thinking about working on an RDA/BIBFRAME/MARC/FRBR p...) [08:49:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Chart I am in the room adjacent to the ballroom if anyone is interested in charts (working on the extension/chart service, or tools/gadgets for making it easier to work with tabular data/charts on the wikis, and tools for migrating existing graphs (from the old Graph extension) to charts. [08:49:38] Hi all, we're aware of the WiFi situation. Can someone let me know if the WiFi also has issues in the smaller rooms? [08:49:50] Or is it working ok? [08:50:17] Wifi is working fine in the adjacent ballroom room [08:52:08] Note to hackers: but you must ball (re @sjoerddebruin: Wifi is working fine in the adjacent ballroom room) [08:52:11] Just bringing this up again to see if anyone knows how to get involved (re @lena_aishia: I want to find out more about the wiki loves folklore project) [08:53:04] Fast and perfect (re @bekobyrm: https://www.youtube.com/live/0HHNirvItr8?si=dvZz2_OtQQ0CcA4H [08:53:04] Here is the 30 second presentations video) [08:54:16] AnnieKim: Hey sorry I just got your message. I went out to get some fresh air. I'm at the front center table [08:54:33] @ferdi2005 (re @lena_aishia: Just bringing this up again to see if anyone knows how to get involved) [08:59:20] Random question, but is anyone good with WireGuard? I operate a small VPN that itself appears to be working, but when I try connecting my Android phone to it I get no network traffic. I remember it working before. [09:02:01] Who was the person who said he is working on wikimedia games? I'm interested [09:02:26] Katie oooh, charts service, got a link? [09:02:39] you can check Etherpad (re @Wasp_Outis: Who was the person who said he is working on wikimedia games? I'm interested) [09:03:26] Hi, Anyone from wikidocumentaries in the hackathon? Would love to know, learn and chat obout the same.. [09:07:08] We're actively working on stabilizing the WiFi. However, if someone is having persistent issues with the WiFi please let me know, or go to the AV table in the main room - people there can help you out! [09:09:00] IMPORTANT: There will be no internet in the *MAIN BALLROOM* from 12:10 to 12:15. It will be working on the other rooms, so take your precautions. Thank you for your patience! [09:10:20] Anyone from Wikidata Query Service here? [09:11:09] @lucaswerkmeister and others are here.. (re @nerim4n: Anyone from Wikidata Query Service here?) [09:21:29] 🌟 Join us for the South Asian Meet and Greet unconference session at Wikimedia Hackathon 2025! [09:21:30] 🗓 May 3 (Tomorrow) [09:21:31] 🕚 11:00–11:30 AM [09:21:33] 📍 Lobby Level Room, Istanbul venue [09:21:34] Let’s connect, share, and learn together! [09:21:36] Sign up & details: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393158 [09:21:37] See you there! 👋 [09:23:26] I am not from there but have experience with using and running it (re @nerim4n: Anyone from Wikidata Query Service here?) [09:24:01] is there a table somewhat dedicated/focussed on "Help setting up MediaWiki" table somewhere? [09:24:11] Also, those who are intrigued by my citations database: https://wikipediacitations.scatter.red [09:24:57] 'Collaboratively adding metadata to hackathon photos' will be starting in Ankara & Antalya (lobby level) in 5 minutes - come discuss what metadata should be added to hackathon photos (should we name/categorise everyone?) vs. privacy needs (when is it not safe to identify people?), and help add metadata to past photos! [09:25:48] Lunch will be starting soon, in the Terra restaurant (12:30 - 2pm). But first - we still have two more unconference sessions starting at 12:30 that might pique your interest! (schedule (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Friday,_May_2nd)) [09:26:20] Derek said he can help with that (re @Krinkle24: is there a table somewhat dedicated/focussed on "Help setting up MediaWiki" somewhere?) [09:27:10] More self promotion. This is my personal copy of the Wikidata Query Service. Old-school unsplit graph. https://try.orbopengraph.com [09:27:10] I am interested in help with adding more graphs (Commons, categories, WD lexemes) [09:28:06] Glad you are interested ! I'd be happy to get that done too :) (re @IsmaelOlea: I'm interested in the technical details of «productizing» Integraality with Wikibase Suite.) [09:29:06] This person works on wiki loves monuments. Thank you though (re @nerim4n: Contact @ferdi2005) [09:31:02] I can help with that (re @Krinkle24: is there a table somewhat dedicated/focussed on "Help setting up MediaWiki" somewhere?) [09:31:50] If Olga T / WMF is here - can you ping me, please? 🙂 [09:32:37] Hurray got MediaWiki installed after some challenges. Big thanks to @xSavitar [09:37:16] @kimberly_sarabia on IRC. How can I reach out to you on Telegram? [09:38:10] Can someone please help me with this? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b7b2f9ac/file_70307.jpg [09:38:19] kbmfsa: give me 10 minutes. i need to sign up for telegram i think [09:41:00] we can talk in dm if you wish (re @JeanFred: Glad you are interested ! I'd be happy to get that done too :)) [09:44:08] I'm looking for a place to send people to and/or for me to sit and help others. (re @Angel_804: I can help with that) [09:44:45] @alchimistawp are you familiar with setting up a jupyter service in a docker compose orchestration? [09:47:05] not quite used (re @IsmaelOlea: @alchimistawp are you familiar with setting up a jupyter service in a docker compose orchestration?) [09:50:54] Are we saturating Phabricator? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/3caa3a9b/file_70308.jpg [09:52:34] Do also send the request details at the bottom of that page and show Taavi in the main ballroom (re @IsmaelOlea: Are we saturating Phabricator?) [09:52:45] I hope everyone has a great time at the hackathon! [09:53:08] or send to taavi@wikimedia.org [09:55:06] I'm not there this year, but if anyone is stuck for a "silly idea which sounds cool", reviving https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Telnet_gateway is high on the list! xD (re @TheresNoTime: I hope everyone has a great time at the hackathon!) [09:55:10] @kbmfsa Ok I'm here [09:56:31] I will DM you (re @Kimberly: @kbmfsa Ok I'm here) [10:00:26] I'm interested on the feedback of any intensive wikibase user: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391815 [10:03:55] Additional resource for the photography session (hey @mikepeel). Template for consent frm: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Informed_consent_to_be_photographed.pdf [10:13:27] Remember 'm bringing the most élite stickers ever for Commons contributors of manhole covers pictures https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Manhole_cover_sticker.svg (re @IsmaelOlea: Public Announce: [10:13:28] forgot to say I'm bringing the most élite stickers ever for Commons contributors of manhole covers pictures h...) [10:22:10] Hey can I get perssion to create repository under toolfordge repo for this username : @punit [10:24:38] If you are looking for something small to work on, you can also browse through Good-first-task’s [10:24:39] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/jsySdXllltwv/#R [10:25:59] Similarly, if you have something you don’t want to do immediately, but that can easily be picked up by someone else, you can use this tag. But PLEASE give a very good description of what needs to be done, for people that perhaps do not have your level of knowledge, and add links that will help people get started. (re @djhartman: If you are looking for something [10:25:59] small to work on [10:26:00] , you can also browse through Good-first-task’s [10:26:01] https://phabricator.wikimedia....) [10:52:30] who's a good person to talk to about upload wizard? [10:57:40] Hey all - our sessions are starting now - please come up to the lobby level and enjoy our two sessions: _What happens when you type __tr.wikipedia.org__?_ and _Hands-on toolforge workshop_ [10:59:27] then, at 3pm, we'll be starting the _Responsible Use of Infrastructure_ session and then two more sessions at 4pm: _Discussion/workshop on responsible use of infrastructure_ and _What would a centralized location for moderators & patrollers look like?_ All the sessions are in the Ankara & Antalya and/or Istanbul room on the lobby level. [11:11:01] changed battery inside door lock and some other sort of setting and now it works fine. (re @jeremy_b: anyone else having problems with mobile key feel like comparing notes? mostly for fun, if I have to use the regular key nbd. wor...) [11:30:02] Ah u can insert any card in that ,it doesn't need to be a hotel key (re @sjoerddebruin: I mean the carton that holds the hotel cards) [11:31:51] we're not talking about the "energy saver". but yes that thing you mean even cardstock worked, didn't have to be plastic. (re @Angel_804: Ah u can insert any card in that ,it doesn't need to be a hotel key. If by holder you mean the thing that turns on the room ligh...) [11:32:17] at previous hotel I was most confused by the "energy saver". [11:32:35] but then here I knew from the last place. [11:33:06] @ImaginaryPumpkin https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Edit_check#:~:text=Edit%20check%20is%20a%20tool,configured%20locally%20by%20interface%20admins. [11:33:10] Who can I ask for help regarding QuickStatements? [11:41:16] @arcstur ? (re @bkrabina: Who can I ask for help regarding QuickStatements?) [11:42:03] Yes :D [11:44:39] can someone aprove my GitLabs account? @daanvr [11:46:52] @daanvr I just added you to the Phabricator Trusted-Contributors group. A bot shoulod give you the gitlab rights very soon. [11:47:32] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tool:Gitlab-account-approval/Log&diff=prev&oldid=2297894 -- {{Done}} (re @bd808: @daanvr I just added you to the Phabricator Trusted-Contributors group. A bot shoulod give you the gitlab rights very soon.) [11:53:10] @Hugo_Lz i have a badge for your friend Thibault, can you have him come pick it up from the help desk? [11:56:19] They have special bathrooms for WikiMedians)) : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/893cdf4c/file_70311.jpg [11:57:12] Today's agenda : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/bc8be346/file_70312.jpg [11:58:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_of_death [11:59:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfloppy [11:59:20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_drive [12:01:29] The Responsible Use of Infrastructure session is starting now in Ankara! [12:03:25] the Responsible Use of Infrastructure (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T392904) session will be followed by a Discussion/workshop on responsible use of infrastructure (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393165) in Ankara & Antalya on the lobby level! [12:03:31] This is starting at Ankara & Antalya : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f2f62556/file_70313.jpg [12:09:54] any notes from this? I can help with categorization/tagging remotely (re @mikepeel: 'Collaboratively adding metadata to hackathon photos' will be starting in Ankara & Antalya (lobby level) in 5 minutes - come di...) [12:10:59] We talked about how to get consent from people in the photos (re @AntiComposite: any notes from this? I can help with categorization/tagging remotely) [12:13:49] Will there be any table for exchanging banknotes, postage marks? [12:22:15] maybe put it on the NERD table? or find another table that isn't in use much? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/3301ded6/file_70314.jpg [12:24:14] can somebody help me with that? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/365fddf9/file_70315.jpg [12:25:42] what's your gitlab username? (re @Tohaomg: can somebody help me with that?) [12:25:55] Tohaomg [12:26:11] Neutral point of view is one of the most core policies of Wikipedia. If you'd like to talk about the efforts to strengthen it (https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/03/27/strengthening-wikipedias-neutral-point-of-view/), or (especially) if you have ideas for tools or technical solutions that could help, please find me around and talk to me! [12:27:46] I've added you to the phabricator `trusted-contributors` group, so your gitlab account should automatically get activated sometime soon (re @Tohaomg: tohaomg) [12:45:19] @Angel_804 hey [12:58:29] I want to talk to you (and others!) about how technical contributors might be able to help, and how the dev outreach team might be able to support! (re @LorenzoLosa: Neutral point of view is one of the most core policies of Wikipedia. If you'd like to talk about the efforts to strengthen it, o...) [12:58:56] It's nearly 4pm - do you know which session you want to join? we have two happening: Discussion/workshop on responsible use of infrastructure (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393165) and What would a centralized location for moderators & patrollers look like? (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393023) Come join us! [13:02:09] I've written up some notes at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391640#10785993 (we had no etherpad). I think some other attendees also took notes, please add them there! And follow-up thoughts / conversations would be very welcome! (re @AntiComposite: any notes from this? I can help with categorization/tagging remotely) [13:04:13] Great! we will definitely talk 😊 (re @Amanda: I want to talk to you (and others!) about how technical contributors might be able to help, and how the dev outreach team might ...) [13:15:13] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/a38f08d3/file_70317.jpg [13:17:26] I'm not in Istanbul, unfortunately, but I could help (re @jeremy_b: who's a good person to talk to about upload wizard?) [13:19:09] Might be slow to answer though, because I'm enjoying a free day today [13:44:29] Ah, here you all are! Matrix bridge doesn't seem to work 😅 Any newer people interesting in getting active but struggling? I'm struggling and trying to improve docs as I go :) [13:45:08] why all references are shown as [0] in wikipedia mobile app?version : r/2.7.50528-r-2025-04-15 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/4edf5287/file_70320.jpg [13:55:19] WiFi not working for me [13:55:50] maybe i missed it but is there a description of what the format for the Closing showcase is? should we have a video or something? [14:03:33] This pad https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Closing_Showcase linked in program (re @derenrich: maybe i missed it but is there a description of what the format for the Closing showcase is? should we have a video or something...) [14:03:39] looks like a bug! I'll file a task on our Backlog (re @athulvis: why all references are shown as [0] in wikipedia mobile app? [14:03:40] version : r/2.7.50528-r-2025-04-15) [14:03:42] We have an etherpad (https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025_Closing_Showcase) and phab task (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391688) (also linked on the schedule) - are there more questions you have that I can help answer? (re @derenrich: maybe i missed it but is there a description of what the format for the Closing showcase is? should we have a [14:03:42] video or something...) [14:04:24] Someone already filed it! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393134 (re @athulvis: why all references are shown as [0] in wikipedia mobile app? [14:04:25] version : r/2.7.50528-r-2025-04-15) [14:04:40] is it just me or has it gotten hotter in the main ballroom [14:06:34] Event page says chat rooms bridged, but matrix seems not to be. Fix or remove info? [14:10:08] hmm... ballroom aircon seems turned off? [14:11:29] @Doug45 The matrix bridge would have disappeqared when libra.chat dropped the matrix.org default bridge system. [14:12:26] page says now seems not to be as of date […] (re @Doug45: Event page says chat rooms bridged, but matrix seems not to be. Fix or remove info?) [14:12:30] https://libera.chat/guides/matrix#wheres-the-official-matrix-bridge [14:15:31] then how is the bridgebot working? (re @bd808: https://libera.chat/guides/matrix#wheres-the-official-matrix-bridge) [14:16:06] bridegbot connects irc and telegram. nothing connects to matrix [14:16:20] @bd808 runs a bot on toolforge, not a change since matrix bridge ended (re @deb_t: then how is the bridgebot working?) [14:18:57] I was unaware! So - is this correct still or needs to be changed? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/55437754/file_70322.jpg [14:19:22] no change (re @deb_t: I was unaware! So - is this correct still or needs to be changed?) [14:19:25] it is possible to bridge to matrix using matterbridge, but we'd need someone to run the matrix side [14:19:41] and someone to notice when it breaks (re @AntiComposite: it is possible to bridge to matrix using matterbridge, but we'd need someone to run the matrix side) [14:19:52] and deal with spammers [14:21:04] That bit is correct. The IRC and Telegram channels are bridged. What is incorrect is that there is no bridge from either IRC or Telegram to Matrix. (re @deb_t: I was unaware! So - is this correct still or needs to be changed?) [14:22:12] There may have been an IRC to Matrix bridge prior to 2023-08-05. [14:23:41] well also there was a way to use matrix to log in to libera. but that's gone. [14:24:19] so you could at that point join any IRC channel there. [14:25:07] Ok, so the bridge to matrix is not listed on that page (unless someone already removed it). (re @bd808: That bit is correct. The IRC and Telegram channels are bridged. What is incorrect is that there is no bridge from either IRC or ...) [14:26:19] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025#Step_2:_Connect_and_get_setup says `Matrix: #wikimedia-hackathon:matrix.org (Seems not bridged as of 2025-05-02, 16:30)` [14:27:40] Ah - I was looking at a different page 😛 (re @bd808: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025#Step_2:_Connect_and_get_setup says Matrix: #wikimedia-hackathon:matrix.o...) [14:31:58] Anyone interested in going for a fun run down by the waterfront? I'll be leaving in ~15 min if you want to join! (Exercise helps with jetlag!) [14:33:08] we were thinking of going to the pool at 6 pm😅 (re @Halley: Anyone interested in going for a fun run down by the waterfront? I'll be leaving in ~15 min if you want to join! (Exercise helps...) [14:34:32] I will join you (re @Halley: Anyone interested in going for a fun run down by the waterfront? I'll be leaving in ~15 min if you want to join! (Exercise helps...) [14:35:54] Hello [14:36:14] Please to are going [14:37:29] Cool 😎 Runners -- meet in the lobby at 5:45! As a disclaimer, I am also pretty slow [14:45:58] I am in the lobby (re @Halley: Cool 😎 Runners -- meet in the lobby at 5:45! As a disclaimer, I am also pretty slow) [15:09:28] Any online sessions? [15:09:31] The hotel staff told me dinner is ready in 5 minutes [15:11:50] Vegan fellows, I have brazilian vegan stickers to share 😁🌱 [15:16:39] Is anyone still having issues logging into gitlab? [15:19:36] @tehreedy resolving IDP domain issues? Or something else? [15:20:48] That might explain it... 422 [15:21:35] ^ (re @theprotonade: Can someone please help me with this?) [15:25:14] Any active sessions? I cannot find any on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Friday_02_May_2025 [15:27:31] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393191 [15:28:45] No active sessions right now - it's dinner time in Turkey! (re @Yetkin: Any active sessions? I cannot find any on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Friday_02_May_2025) [16:08:09] to whom it may concern: https://userstyles.world/style/13140/wikimedia-phabricator-reduce-gerritbot-comments [16:08:26] ^^ I am concerned! [16:31:08] Edward says the one I found isn't his and it's not mine. (I was last out of a room and it was still on the table) does anyone know who's responsible for WMF device? anyone else have one? (re @EdwardBetts: ) [16:32:15] the app shows me my serial number even when not connected fwiw [16:39:06] *Until what time is dinner served?* [16:40:46] 9 pm (but they might keep it open a little later) (re @Wasp_Outis: Until what time is dinner served?) [17:08:17] If you walk out of the hotel, zake a left and next left again you can walk down stairs to the beach. There is a nice seaside walkway. I can 4 km, bit it is way longer. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/159c5011/file_70327.jpg [17:08:18] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f12fcef3/file_70328.jpg [17:08:42] Is there an option to make Discord available via Wikimedia wi-fi? Or is it illegal in Turkey? [17:08:55] do you have a VPN? (re @putnik: Is there an option to make Discord available via Wikimedia wi-fi? Or is it illegal in Turkey?) [17:09:21] On a laptop, but not on my phone (re @jeremy_b: do you have a VPN?) [17:10:02] can you use the same one on phone? [17:11:42] Technically yes, legally - I need to think a little more about it (re @jeremy_b: can you use the same one on phone?) [17:17:29] It's likely blocked at an ISP level or higher, so, you'd have to do something funky with all the network traffic. (re @putnik: Is there an option to make Discord available via Wikimedia wi-fi? Or is it illegal in Turkey?) [17:21:57] there is solutions like GoodbyeDPI, it works for Discord (re @putnik: Is there an option to make Discord available via Wikimedia wi-fi? Or is it illegal in Turkey?) [17:28:23] I like discord which server are you on? (re @putnik: Is there an option to make Discord available via Wikimedia wi-fi? Or is it illegal in Turkey?) [17:36:41] It is a hard question to answer 😄 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/47089440/file_70330.jpg [17:36:50] There is a community-managed Discord server [17:36:51] https://discord.gg/wikimedia [17:51:16] You can rent a scooter. You can scan the QR code on the scooters you see on the road and rent them by the minute with a credit card. Good idea for the seaside (re @bkrabina: If you walk out of the hotel, zake a left and next left again you can walk down stairs to the beach. There is a nice seaside wal...) [18:06:15] @everyone: @addshore is looking for stress testers of his Commons depict tool: https://wikicrowd.toolforge.org/ [18:06:16] Please get out your phone or laptop and tag 73 “depicts”! (More allowed) [18:29:10] On clicking Skip.. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/56cb3774/file_70332.jpg [18:41:42] Free exclusive stickers for contributors of manhole cover pictures in Commons! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/64b00434/file_70333.jpg [18:46:17] Unfortunately I cannot drop (nonsense) videos here (because of chat settings?) and probably not in scope with commons. So I upload here: [18:46:18] https://t.me/ItalianLinuxSociety/30/13737 (cc zero - "wikimedian magic trick") [18:49:00] Would somebody like to go for a walk outside? [18:49:22] If you have a Wi-Fi hotspot, yes, for StreetComplete [18:49:22] Otherwise nope 😁 (re @ferdi2005: Would somebody like to go for a walk outside?) [18:49:36] Could be 😆 (re @bozzy: If you have a Wi-Fi hotspot, yes, for StreetComplete [18:49:37] Otherwise nope 😁) [18:49:48] Nah it does not work, you said yesterday, but nice try (re @ferdi2005: Could be 😆) [18:50:17] where? (re @ferdi2005: Would somebody like to go for a walk outside?) [18:50:56] ..outside 😃 (re @nerim4n: where?) [18:51:42] I would like to join if there is more than 1 people [18:52:41] It sometimes crashes (re @Yono: On clicking Skip..😉) [19:05:29] This chat has reached one thousand members! 🥳 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/da3ba60d/file_70337.jpg [19:23:05] Someone left this in the main hacking room; please find me to return it. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b4695321/file_70339.jpg [19:33:32] My room is on the sixth floor of the hotel and I can hear some really pumping music, lots of base. I guess there is a nightclub next door. Fortunately I travel with ear plugs. [19:40:58] Same here on the 8th floor but it's giving me FOMO (re @EdwardBetts: My room is on the sixth floor of the hotel and I can hear some really pumping music, lots of base. I guess there is a nightclub ...) [19:41:20] same (re @nacaru: Same here on the 8th floor but it's giving me FOMO) [19:42:38] We have earplugs available if you need them! Let me know if you need some :) [19:42:49] should we try visiting the club? (re @nacaru: Same here on the 8th floor but it's giving me FOMO) [19:44:59] Same here, but fortunately, I also have ear plugs. And I am used to sleeping with shooting and explosions on the background, so this bass won't botherme too much. [19:45:23] It will probably be over around my bedtime ;) [19:46:06] The easy solution is to work until they end their night [19:46:19] That's why the main hackathon room is open all night, right? [19:46:44] maybe tomorrow, I'm already in bedtime mode here 😁 (re @ferdi2005: should we try visiting the club?) [19:46:52] Take over a corner of the dance floor with our laptops? (re @ferdi2005: should we try visiting the club?) [19:48:01] And talk to them about our pitches (re @lcawte: Take over a corner of the dance floor with our laptops?) [19:48:31] Thank you Amanda ! (re @Amanda: @Hugo_Lz i have a badge for your friend Thibault, can you have him come pick it up from the help desk?) [20:21:27] Is https://lists.wikimedia.org down? 🤔 [20:23:55] the front page is sometimes slow if you’re logged in IIRC (re @waldyrious: Is https://lists.wikimedia.org down? 🤔) [20:24:01] there’s a phab task for it but not sure if I can find it [20:24:38] T353891 [20:26:48] I'm not logged in and I couldn't get wikitech-l archives to load (re @lucaswerkmeister: the front page is sometimes slow if you’re logged in IIRC) [20:27:49] hm, might be a different issue then [20:27:54] It also doesn't seem to just be taking a long time — it's actually timing out for me 🤔 [20:53:12] It got upset : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/1ec36b6c/file_70340.jpg [21:11:04] Hi all! If you need ear plugs we will leave a couple on the help desk table right outside the main hacking room ✨ [21:22:01] I'm already registered on line. As i'll be arriving on saturday late evening on sunday morning, in order to participate at the dinner on 4th, is it necessary to check in phisically at the Renaissance hotel? Or i can directly show up at the dinner the 4th at the boat? [21:31:57] Hi Davide - yes, please come on over to the event venue, we already have your reservation! If you're not staying at the Renaissance hotel, no need to check in there; just go down to the -1 (B1) level and follow the signs to the Palandoken ballroom and find the help desk. One of our organizing team can check you into the event and provide a badge. If you have a more [21:31:57] accurate timef [21:31:58] rame for arrival, that'd be great! You can also email us at hackathon@wikimedia.org with your arrival time and any details you want to share. (re @Davide: I'm already registered on line. As i'll be arriving on saturday late evening on sunday morning, in order to participate at the d...) [21:55:04] I wonder if there is someone from Campaigns Product team