[00:14:59] All Bugs Fixed!!! ❤️ [00:18:20] Time to sleep‽ 😅 [00:24:49] Yup (re @tuukkahastrup: Time to sleep‽ 😅) [05:31:32] What would happen if i came30 mn late [05:31:33] I missed my subway [06:21:12] Good morning everyone! The unconference session about creating a *web tool to conveniently add books to Wikidata* will start soon (9:30) in the Ankara & Antalya room. [06:21:13] Come and help shape what this new tool could look like, refine the first draft of the schema/data modeling, and chat with other people interested in bibliographic data on Wikidata! [06:30:13] The wi-fi barely works, again [06:38:36] We are looking 😊 (re @Tohaomg: The wi-fi barely works, again) [06:44:52] wifi works fine for me, fortunately [06:48:02] due to the VPN use here, i discovered the mobile editor apparently caches the "are you blocked" information, and improperly prevents users from editing even after the VPN is disabled. i created a screencast here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LBiRKtrUEzHY-LBVY1EYrtu6IoiFA5Da/view?usp=sharing. [06:48:03] do we have anyone familiar with the mobile editor enough to help fixing this? [06:52:07] I would go if there's a group today. I could provide the Internet. (re @bozzy: If you have a Wi-Fi hotspot, yes, for StreetComplete [06:52:09] Otherwise nope 😁) [06:53:15] mobile also prevents reading page source if blocked. have to switch to desktop. (re @urbanecm: due to the VPN use here, i discovered the mobile editor apparently caches the "are you blocked" information, and improperly prev...) [06:55:15] Mobile editor meaning one of the wikipedia apps (ios, android), or minerva? [06:55:44] mdot for my comment (re @goodvibes6177: Mobile editor meaning one of the wikipedia apps (ios, android), or minerva?) [06:56:05] I assumed Martin was talking about mdot [06:57:51] Mdot? [06:58:40] en.m.wikisomething [06:59:01] Ah ok. So minerva [06:59:57] but idk the mechanics of whether it's the skin doing it or some other piece of mdot configuration? [07:03:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/special:search/mdot (re @goodvibes6177: Mdot?) [07:15:42] To any Wikipedia Mobile App users or folks interested in trying it out - I'm at a table in the ballroom with test devices - if you're interested in testing and giving feedback, please stop by! [07:16:16] if anyone wants Wikimedia-colored nails (like the first photo in https://wikis.world/@LucasWerkmeister/114442667499910429), get in touch :3 [07:16:29] (telegram preview only shows the second photo lol) [07:16:51] is there any commons upload api expert around? [07:16:54] note, I didn't bring any nail polish remover, so if you don't want to travel back like that you'd have to find your own [07:17:26] Excellent, sorely needed. Just remember that two items should be created. (re @waldyrious: Good morning everyone! The unconference session about creating a web tool to conveniently add books to Wikidata will start soon ...) [07:18:54] Can we get some more juice available today? [07:27:05] I expect to hit a pharmacy today or tomorrow. I could pick up if someone wants. (re @lucaswerkmeister: note, I didn't bring any nail polish remover, so if you don't want to travel back like that you'd have to find your own) [07:27:39] I guess this is literal? the thing made from fruit? :) (re @tehreedy: Can we get some more juice available today please?) [07:28:06] Apple, orange, cherry… or even lemonade, coke etc [07:28:15] Not coffee/tea or water :) [07:28:40] (It’s an issue that happens every other hackathon) [07:34:28] ⏰ Reminder: South Asian Meet and Greet session starts in 25 minutes! [07:34:28] 📍 Lobby Level Room, Wikimedia Hackathon – Istanbul [07:34:30] 🕚 11:00–11:30 AM [07:34:31] Come join us for a quick meet-up and great conversations! 🙌 [07:34:33] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393158 (re @gopavasanth: 🌟 Join us for the South Asian Meet and Greet unconference session at Wikimedia Hackathon 2025! [07:34:34] 🗓 May 3 (Tomorrow) [07:34:36] 🕚 11:00–11:30...) [07:35:31] 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 Thanks for plugging me with a cable : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6fe57f0f/file_70346.jpg [07:38:06] Hey @Krinkle24, are you around in the hacking room by any chance? I could use a bit of your help on T393170 — I’m halfway through it already.. [07:57:37] If you are interested in what Visual editor team are doing with live checking edits, then come up to Ankara& Antalya now [08:01:00] 🚀 The South Asian Meet and Greet session is starting now! (re @gopavasanth: ⏰ Reminder: South Asian Meet and Greet session starts in 25 minutes! [08:01:00] 📍 Lobby Level Room, Wikimedia Hackathon – Istanbul [08:01:01] 🕚 11:00...) [08:12:02] We should talk about that some day [08:12:03] Meanwhile, did had a look at tools like Cradle or WEF already doing that (re @waldyrious: Good morning everyone! The unconference session about creating a web tool to conveniently add books to Wikidata will start soon ...) [08:14:56] Good morning! We will start assembling for the group photo shortly before noon today - please go to the back of the hotel via an outside door to where the big outdoor pool is. We'll assemble on the grey/white circular pavement to the left (once you've left the hotel) on the stage there and standing in front of the stage. Please be on time if you'd like to be part of [08:14:56] the group pho [08:14:57] to! Also - if you have a red lanyard, you don't have to participate if you'd prefer not to; but if you do want to do the group photo - please remove your red lanyard so we can upload the photos to Commons. [08:15:13] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/204bdc33/file_70347.jpg [08:17:54] you can't just assume if someone is specifically posing for a well announced photo then they consent? (re @deb_t: Good morning! We will start assembling for the group photo shortly before noon today - please go to the back of the hotel via an...) [08:18:49] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T391826 - ticket about wikibase extensions [08:25:39] No, consent has to be crystal clear (re @jeremy_b: you can't just assume if someone is specifically posing for a well announced photo then they consent?) [08:27:03] and I was not understanding how that wouldn't already be clear. don't pose for a photo you don't want to be in. (re @Nicolas: No, consent has to be crystal clear) [08:28:48] just because someone followed everyone else doesn't mean they know what's going on, they might not have understood what was said, or heard it at all [08:39:19] Anyone interested in/passionate about visual diffs and willing to offer some feedback? [08:40:31] it's also confusing if red lanyards mean no photos except in the photos where it doesn't, it's much clearer for everyone if people consent by removing the lanyard when they're ok with photos, rather than leaving people to judge whether someone being where they are in a particular picture counts as having consented [09:24:38] I am — where can I find you? (now, or after lunch if you prefer) (re @derektorsani: Anyone interested in/passionate about visual diffs and willing to offer some feedback?) [09:25:20] WEF? (re @Nicolas: We should talk about that some day [09:25:21] Meanwhile, did had a look at tools like Cradle or WEF already doing that) [09:26:24] Codex team table here in Hackathon? [09:28:59] If anyone wants to help test 2FA using their mobile devices after lunch, come find me and Gergo [09:32:13] There’s the editing team table near the front door of the ballroom. We did make them. (re @derektorsani: Anyone interested in/passionate about visual diffs and willing to offer some feedback?) [09:45:40] Any folks with Commons knowledge (especially categories), or folks who like uploading photos to Commons to add them to Wikipedia articles, I'd love to talk to you now or after lunch! (At table with iOS Commons upload sign) [09:49:58] Or - come to Istanbul room at 3.30, we'll have an unconference on NPOV (re @LorenzoLosa: Neutral point of view is one of the most core policies of Wikipedia. If you'd like to talk about the efforts to strengthen it, o...) [10:21:31] Okay I will find you after lunch. Thank you! (re @kemayo: There’s the editing team table near the front door of the ballroom. We did make them.) [10:21:42] could someone approve+deploy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/integration/config/+/1141037, please? [10:22:31] I'm going to grab a table in the ballroom. You can find me in there after lunch. Black shirt, shaved buzz hair. (re @waldyrious: I am — where can I find you? (now, or after lunch if you prefer)) [10:22:45] I'm going to grab a table in the ballroom. You can find me in there after lunch. Black shirt, shaved buzz hair. (re @Jayprakash12345: Codex team table here in Hackathon?) [10:28:10] Late additions to the unconference schedule! [10:28:10] *Today* at 4 PM in Istanbul room: Demo of the Citation Watchlist, a user script that highlights the addition of questionable URLs on Wikipedia articles. Maybe this will give you some inspiration. [10:28:12] *Tomorrow* at 12 PM, also in Istanbul: The Wikipedia Citations Database, my database of citations that appear on Wikipedia articles (including prior revisions). This session will show off the frontend interface for the database, but I am also interested in looking for edge cases my database can't handle yet. [10:39:29] More info for each: [10:39:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WATCHCITE [10:39:31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citations_Database [10:54:49] if anyone is missing a canon lens cover it is in the front-most center table [11:06:30] 👋 (re @Kimberly: if anyone is missing a canon lens cover it is in the front-most center table) [11:10:29] In case you are listening to music while coding, I'd love you to check out the new song of my band that just came out: [11:10:30] https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/track/4XPAVNuZzR5eVUlSG7jNnS?si=4c05e51f7bc64adb [11:10:31] It is also on YouTube music and other platforms. [11:10:33] 😊 [11:28:00] If you are interested in learning more about the Product and Technology Advisory Council (https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Product_and_Technology_Advisory_Council/Proposal) or discuss its recommendation (https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Product_and_Technology_Advisory_Council/February_2025_draft_PTAC_recommendation_for_feedback), come in three minutes to the [11:28:00] Istanbul room! [11:35:24] should we have a social break with rubik’s cubes and juggling balls and stuff later? cc @gopavasanth @goodvibes6177 and anyone else interested :) [11:36:20] Sounds exciting! how about around 4? (re @lucaswerkmeister: should we have a social break with rubik’s cubes and juggling balls and stuff later? cc @gopavasanth @goodvibes6177 and anyone e...) [11:36:32] works for me! [11:43:03] Any fans of board games in here? Maybe we have a board game session as well? [11:43:25] taavi: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/topic:%22bump-dev-deps%22+owner:jforrester@wikimedia.org+-age:2d [11:44:52] Someone with a red badge is in video [11:44:52] Is that ok to be shared? [11:44:54] (37:36) (re @jeremy_b: https://www.youtube.com/live/0HHNirvItr8 [11:44:55] with less tracking) [11:47:12] there will be a Kahoot at 4:30 pm (re @lucaswerkmeister: should we have a social break with rubik’s cubes and juggling balls and stuff later? cc @gopavasanth @goodvibes6177 and anyone e...) [11:47:29] I’d love to join! (re @Tohaomg: Any fans of board games in here? Maybe we have a board game session as well?) [11:47:48] James_F: better now? [11:48:35] maybe we can go there straight after ^^ (re @nerim4n: there will be a Kahoot at 4:30 pm) [11:49:27] *where* exactly that will be? (re @nerim4n: there will be a Kahoot at 4:30 pm) [11:49:34] Olga but idk if it's Olga (re @Wasp_Outis: Someone with a red badge is in video [11:49:36] Is that ok to be shared? [11:49:37] (37:36)) [11:50:27] in Istanbul room, it is listed on the program (re @Tohaomg: *where* exactly that will be?) [11:54:31] Ok, then let's play board games right after Kahoot in the the same place [11:55:30] added to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Saturday_03_May_2025 – 4pm, meet at the sweets table :) (re @lucaswerkmeister: should we have a social break with rubik’s cubes and juggling balls and stuff later? cc @gopavasanth @goodvibes6177 and anyone e...) [11:55:48] do we need to sign up for Kahoot? I followed the link and am not sure what to do ^^ [11:56:19] 🎲 Board games session: on 17:00 today at Istanbul room [11:59:09] sounds good. i'm in! (re @lucaswerkmeister: added to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Saturday_03_May_2025 – 4pm, meet at the sweets table :)) [11:59:52] I’ll try to look for a place where we can go ^^ so far I’m thinking either where we took the group photo, or in the park (earthquake emergency point, i.e. we should all know where it is ;)) [12:42:27] taavi: Is what better now? [12:43:06] there are four aranet4 sensors that WMF brought specifically for the Hackathon and all 4 have a cat sticker on the back. One for each session room and one for each hacking space. Please leave them on the tables as we will collect them Sunday afternoon. I hope that the readings are making everyone feel comfortable about the air quality- if you were having any concerns [12:43:06] about it. 😄 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/689143eb/file_70352.jpg [12:43:13] (re @deb_t: there are four aranet4 sensors that WMF brought specifically for the Hackathon and all 4 have a cat sticker on the back. One for...) [12:43:42] The main hacking room is a lot better today in terms of fresh air [12:45:36] does this work outside enwiki? (re @harej: More info for each: [12:45:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:WATCHCITE [12:45:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citations_Database) [12:51:37] crazy question: is there any way to edit LocalSettings.php through a graphic interface? [12:51:51] thanks for noticing, we’ll hopefully be able to edit the video to remove that particular project pitch. it’s hard to get permission and then have that be visible enough to anyone viewing the video. 😞Just another reminder to take off the red lanyard if you’re ok to take a group photo or be on video. Also, near the end of the showcase tomorrow, we will stop the [12:51:51] livestream [12:51:51] recording to all those folks that don’t want to be videotaped to still do their project update. (re @Wasp_Outis: Someone with a red badge is in video [12:51:52] Is that ok to be shared? [12:51:54] (37:36)) [12:54:16] WEF WOT? (re @Nicolas: We should talk about that some day [12:54:16] Meanwhile, did had a look at tools like Cradle or WEF already doing that) [12:56:36] One last call to ask if anyone knows anything about contributing to the wiki loves folklore project. I saw some stickers on the sticker table [13:00:56] We have ran this project for the first time on persian community this year. [13:00:57] Will be glad if I can help (re @lena_aishia: One last call to ask if anyone knows anything about contributing to the wiki loves folklore project. I saw some stickers on the ...) [13:02:40] we're meeting at the sweets table now! cc @gopavasanth @goodvibes6177 (re @lucaswerkmeister: added to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025/Program#Saturday_03_May_2025 – 4pm, meet at the sweets table :)) [13:02:48] three people so far ^^ [13:05:29] going to the spot where the group photo was taken, if anyone wants to catch up with us [13:06:23] I believe its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WE-Framework (re @waldyrious: I'm aware of Cradle, but not sure about WEF. Can you share a link?) [13:06:51] On my way.. (re @lucaswerkmeister: we're meeting at the sweets table now! cc @gopavasanth @goodvibes6177) [13:07:07] Finishing up a session. Might be late [13:10:51] https://www.dejal.com/timeout/ [13:11:02] @gopavasanth https://www.dejal.com/timeout/ [13:21:51] , [13:23:43] Thank you Amanda! Please leave it at the help desk 💜 (re @Amanda: @marfossatti i have your badge in the istanbul room, will bring down to the help desk around 4 ^_^) [13:25:12] Trivia in the Istanbul room on level 0 in 5 min! We’re doing teams so bring friends 😁 [13:28:38] https://wikidata.org/wiki/Q22946134 (re @IsmaelOlea: WEF WOT?) [13:35:56] Hey, I can help with Codex (re @Jayprakash12345: Codex team table here in Hackathon?) [13:39:43] <.> Восстановление Аккаунта Apple — Apple (RU) [13:39:43] <.> https://iforgot.apple.com/password/verify/appleid?returnUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fprivacy.apple.com%2F [13:56:28] Thanks, Derek helped :) (re @lily_4444: Hey, I can help with Codex) [14:04:26] Lost object wanted ! While doing group photo a 15cm red and blue flag disappeared. [14:04:27] If you picked it up, or see it, please bring it to the organizer team. 🙏 [14:07:34] we saw that flag, a guy from Portugal (?) picked it up, I forgot his name :) but I hope that's enough to find him [14:08:36] Great ! Got it back ! [14:16:41] At the moment no but if you're interested in support for another wiki let me know (re @seaque: does this work outside enwiki?) [14:17:43] is there anyone who can help me with translatewiki right now? [14:20:16] depends on what you are trying to do! (re @jaanabaev: is there anyone who can help me with translatewiki right now?) [14:24:05] the Android version of Wikipedia cannot find several parts that need to be translated. (re @urbanecm: depends on what you are trying to do!) [14:37:49] Hey all, coded up https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/1141062 for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261230, it adds a watchlist expiry for special:page move. It works, but I am stuck on how to hide it if the "watch this page" is not checked. Appreciate any co-authors for the patch. [14:37:49] Just noting that I am not at the hackathon, posting here since this a good place to get help. [14:46:05] I don't think so, but I heard that it will be possible in future with CommunityConfiguration extension (re @IsmaelOlea: crazy question: is there any way to edit LocalSettings.php through a graphic interface?) [14:46:42] you can view it though, https://noc.wikimedia.org (re @nerim4n: I don't think so, but I heard that it will be possible in future with CommunityConfiguration extension) [14:47:08] Where are you (re @jaanabaev: the Android version of Wikipedia cannot find several parts that need to be translated.) [14:52:58] CommunityConfiguration allows config editing already (it's on all wikis), but it is intended for on-wiki admins, rather than developers. (re @nerim4n: I don't think so, but I heard that it will be possible in future with CommunityConfiguration extension) [14:58:08] <.> Контакты - Creative Commons [14:58:09] <.> https://creativecommons.org/mission/contact/ [15:00:09] Quick reminder - for those attendees that are being sponsored by WMF, if your flight departs prior to 11am on Monday, and you want a bagged breakfast to take with you to the airport, please email travelmanager@wikimedia.org before 9pm tonight! Otherwise, you will need to find breakfast on your own. 🇹🇷 [15:01:33] I didn't know it was going to be by teams! Hope you had fun! (re @Haley: Trivia in the Istanbul room on level 0 in 5 min! We’re doing teams so bring friends 😁) [15:22:56] Jonathan Wellcome 🙂 [15:25:55] [1db4fadb-e9cc-4895-8782-2d74ff648914] 2025-05-03 15:25:10: Fatal exception of type "InvalidArgumentException" [15:26:07] When I added a YubiKey [15:26:58] @tehreedy ^ [15:28:26] what device were you using? (re @nokibsarkar: When I added a YubiKey) [15:28:40] My Laptop with Yubikey type C [15:28:41] that's https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T368468 [15:29:23] Ok, that's the thing I guess [15:38:18] There's going to be a meetup at the indoor pool and then Turkish sauna etc. in 15 minutes. Remember to bring your towel&swimsuit and that for swimming, you can buy the swimming cap from the entrance (for 100 liras or similar) [15:42:00] Is any analytics / superset expert here? :) [15:49:32] Correction: if you don't bring your own towel, they will give you one at the entrance. (re @tuukkahastrup: There's going to be a meetup at the indoor pool and then Turkish sauna etc. in 15 minutes. Remember to bring your towel&swimsuit...) [16:01:26] @kcvelaga (re @addshore: Is any analytics / superset expert here? :)) [16:12:12] I lost my black sunglasses. Did anyone see it? [17:23:01] I can help, please ping me. (re @addshore: Is any analytics / superset expert here? :)) [18:16:19] Anyone tried renting IsBike bikes on the beach? [18:16:19] https://maps.app.goo.gl/1XJAmEx97zeFakn99?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy [18:23:01] I saw the spots for them, but no bikes. (re @lily_4444: Anyone tried renting IsBike bikes on the beach? [18:23:01] https://maps.app.goo.gl/1XJAmEx97zeFakn99?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy) [18:28:23] hi! does anyone here use contacts? I need someone to lend me a bit of solution 🙇🏼‍♀️ [18:30:55] ¡OH! (re @nerim4n: you can view it though, https://noc.wikimedia.org) [18:31:05] so, the code exists? [18:34:38] Babel can be partially configured via the extension [18:39:02] Music at the nightclub next door just started. It is fine, I have my earplugs. [19:04:46] Turkish cat : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/a2799258/file_70366.jpg [19:07:41] There’s live music (piano and singing) at the bar on the main floor until 11pm [19:08:51] today was the first time I saw a domestic (pet) cat here. or I assume must have been. was in one of those backpacks with a clear side for the cat to look out. (re @Amanda: Turkish cat) [19:10:31] There is a lot of people who have cats as pets here but they tend to be outside cats still (re @jeremy_b: today was the first time I saw a domestic (pet) cat here. or I assume must have been. was in one of those backpacks with a clear...) [19:10:45] I was told from staff that the loud music comes from Awen. It’s a restaurant during the day. At night there’s a DJ and drinks. [19:10:45] https://maps.app.goo.gl/thdnEyzC8PL3WMke9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy (re @EdwardBetts: Music at the nightclub next door just started. It is fine, I have my earplugs.) [19:12:21] I walked past Awen today. It is right next to the hotel. (re @lily_4444: I was told from staff that the loud music comes from Awen. It’s a restaurant during the day. At night there’s a DJ and drinks. [19:12:21] ...) [19:12:51] Must be very loud inside. Would need earplugs. [19:19:38] i need them in the room a building away so that's a safe bet 😅 (re @EdwardBetts: Must be very loud inside. Would need earplugs.) [19:19:52] any Codex experts around? can I have a TextInput and a Button in one line somehow? [19:32:26] you can have a SearchInput with a button: https://doc.wikimedia.org/codex/latest/components/demos/search-input.html#with-button (but not a TextInput) [19:32:40] and you can also have multiple inputs inside a Field on a single line: https://doc.wikimedia.org/codex/latest/components/demos/field.html#field-with-multiple-inputs [19:33:10] i'm not an expert though, so you'll have to find out yourself if that works with a button [19:33:39] ohh, SearchInput could be asemantic fit [19:33:53] but I also just figured out that display: grid with grid-column: 1 and 2 on the input and button works :3 [19:33:54] thanks! [19:34:32] It's making me crazy (re @EdwardBetts: Music at the nightclub next door just started. It is fine, I have my earplugs.) [19:36:13] I’m hoping that like last night it will shut off at exactly midnight 🥲 (re @Wasp_Outis: It's making me crazy) [19:36:26]