[06:56:58] Sorry I thought this was our hackathon team chat! [07:09:48] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/aab94220/file_72749.jpg [07:16:33] @tehreedy ? (re @Onyinye: WiFi for the Hackathon Room!) [07:17:21] different SSID maybe same answer 🤞 [07:18:50] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f1ccb0a4/file_72750.jpg [07:19:15] hanging by a thread? [08:27:00] I think gerrit might be blocking us. [08:35:12] Aha, now seemingly resolved? [09:04:14] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/703a5fd2/file_72761.jpg [09:04:44] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/703a5fd2/file_72761.jpg [09:14:57] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/a36c5229/file_72763.jpg [09:15:48] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/a11a93d6/file_72764.jpg [09:45:34] The internet is falling apart! (re @tehreedy: ) [09:46:02] Lowering the tone [09:49:31] I certainly don't trust Telegram with my wiki password [09:52:55] Always use different passwords everywhere (re @Rich: I certainly don't trust Telegram with my wiki password) [11:58:36] Our CTO announced PHP support 8.3. But that is not in Debian stable, or next stable. [11:58:37] I'm a bit curious about this. Why not PHP 8.2? Thanks for any link :3 [12:00:07] I don't want to ask this in the room since I hope to leave space to less-technical Q&A in the room [12:01:15] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T360995 [12:01:36] Thaanks [12:01:58] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2025-2026/Product_%26_Technology_OKRs [12:02:11] It doesn't specifically say why PHP 8.3 [12:07:25] Hi, I’m getting this error when trying to access GitLab: [12:07:25] "Your account is pending approval from your GitLab administrator and hence blocked. Please contact your GitLab administrator if you think this is an error." [12:07:27] Could an admin please help approve my account josefanthony? Thanks. [12:07:59] From this meta page, I guess point "WE6.4.2" is about your mentioned task T360995 (?) (re @wmtelegram_bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2025-2026/Product_%26_Technology_OKRs) [12:08:50] Have you just tried to login to GitLab? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/JosefAnthony/ suggests you're in Trusted-Contributors already, which will give you the right, but it may take the bot a few minutes to update (re @JosefAnthony: Hi, I’m getting this error when trying to access GitLab: [12:08:51] "Your account is pending approval from your GitLab administrator and he...) [12:10:35] yes i did. Okay i guess i will just have to wait for a few minutes. thanks for your help. (re @tehreedy: Have you just tried to login to GitLab? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/JosefAnthony/ suggests you're in Trusted-Contributor...) [12:10:54] Give it 10-15, if it's still not working, please ask again! [12:11:08] okay, thanks (re @tehreedy: Give it 10-15, if it's still not working, please ask again!) [12:19:57] The automatic approval only works if you've linked your Phabricator and developer accounts. You can do this in the "External Accounts" settings while logged in to Phabricator (re @JosefAnthony: okay, thanks) [12:24:24] okay great, let me try it out. thanks (re @AntiComposite: The automatic approval only works if you've linked your Phabricator and developer accounts. You can do this in the "External Acc...) [12:27:40] Done : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/88a2c6b5/file_72792.jpg [13:13:35] Alright, I'm out of ideas then. [13:28:57] In theory you should see a banner on Wikimedia GitLab. Which URL did you end up on; did it not show that banner to you? (re @JosefAnthony: Hi, I’m getting this error when trying to access GitLab: [13:28:58] "Your account is pending approval from your GitLab administrator and he...) [13:29:05] GitLab banner : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6b769ced/file_72806.jpg [13:32:22] @JosefAnthony Your account won't get automatically approved because you linked a different LDAP account to your Phab account. josefanthony in GitLab is not the same as josef1992 linked in Phab. [13:55:49] interface down : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/386c1803/file_72807.jpg [14:15:42] Thanks for the clarification. Could my GitLab account josefanthony please be linked to my Phabricator account instead of josef1992 so it can be approved? (re @malyacko: @JosefAnthony Your account won't get automatically approved because you linked a different LDAP account to your Phab account. jo...) [14:31:13] okay thanks. (re @malyacko: @JosefAnthony Your account won't get automatically approved because you linked a different LDAP account to your Phab account. jo...) [14:35:13] does it drop further out of the ceiling because it's used a lot? is that PoE? (re @ChlodAlejandro: interface down) [14:42:58] It's poe, and yes, from ^ it dropped to the ground (re @tehreedy: ) [14:43:40] yeah but I mean is it actually correlated with usage? packets weighing it down? [15:15:07] WMF has a CTO? (re @bozzy: Our CTO announced PHP support 8.3. But that is not in Debian stable, or next stable. [15:15:08] I'm a bit curious about this. Why not PHP 8...) [15:16:57] Ah. They call this role [15:16:58] "Chief Product and Technology Officer" so I would say yes (re @nemoralis: WMF has a CTO?) [15:17:28] But I'm not strong on English things [15:18:01] https://wikimediafoundation.org/profile/selena-deckelmann/ [15:18:04] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/5d092312/always_has_been_among_us.mp4 [15:21:26] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9e78ea97/file_72812.jpg [15:22:00] preparing time lapse? [15:23:00] for when it inevitably falls? [15:23:24] and who was appointed to sit underneath? [15:24:17] I wonder if anyone will flash it with some new and improved firmware. [15:24:59] BYO PoE injector [15:25:42] the reset buttons are easy to find [16:26:21] I'm having a problem with the split function, anyone familiar with pizza? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/32ab2281/file_72816.jpg [16:26:45] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_(programming_language) [16:36:35] "Current version 1.1 (January 3, 2002)" (re @alchimistawp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_(programming_language)) [16:37:25] and it uses CVS 😭 [16:38:07] I guess should be API compatible with Java. do they have coffee at the venue? (re @alchimistawp: I'm having a problem with the split function, anyone familiar with pizza?) [16:59:15] Seems not. The question is, do they have python out of the box?? (re @jeremy_b: I guess should be API compatible with Java. do they have coffee at the venue?) [17:03:33] The container hasn't rusted, so the python should still be c-cure. P [17:05:14] If no one answered the PHP question, I think the brief answer is that 8.2 has some issues that make it inappropriate for WMF production use. Also PHP is on a twice/year schedule and we'd like to move WMF to a once/year PHP upgrade schedule, so that implies 8.1, 8.3, 8.5 etc. [17:07:03] But all these plans are somewhat aspirational, given that we've historically taken much longer than a year to shift PHP versions. It's quite possible PHP 8.3 would be in Debian by the time were actually ready to switch over, and I expect initial tests are probably done with unofficial packages. [17:16:13] given that trixie is scheduled to release tomorrow, and includes php8.4, I think it’s even virtually certain that there’ll be a PHP≥8.3 in Debian stable before WMF switches to it ;) [17:17:12] (but also, I just realized that I probably misunderstood the original question – I thought it was referring to a non-WMF deployment, sorry) [17:27:39] same? (re @lucaswerkmeister: (but also, I just realized that I probably misunderstood the original question – I thought it was referring to a non-WMF deploym...)