[05:12:18] 👋Hello everyone! [05:12:18] As we start Day 2️⃣, I wanted to share a few reminders so we can ensure that everything goes smoothly today: [05:12:20] ⚫️ Wear your event tshirts for the 📸*group photo at 12pm * [05:12:21] ⚫️ If you’d like to swap your shirt for one of a different size, come to the podium in the Main Space between 10-11am [05:12:23] ⚫️ Do not move or unplug the power outlets in the Main Space [05:12:24] ⚫️ All the unconference sessions have been booked [05:12:26] Thank you! [06:39:40] Are you an astronerd? I’d like to do something on the projects [06:39:41] We can meet for breakfast (re @itsnyoty: Some might say ufo's are outside the hotel but this is Jupiter. It's the bright star on the west) [06:41:08] At what time (re @hogue_456: I added a self organized session on tomorrow Saturday 02th of May at 5 pm to watch some trains passing by at the railway line ne...) [06:45:13] I told him that!! (re @itsnyoty: Some might say ufo's are outside the hotel but this is Jupiter. It's the bright star on the west) [06:48:02] Not so dedicated, although I do have a lot of moon pictures on my phone. DaxServer told me that it was jupiter. (re @giovi_pen: Are you an astronerd? (Aswell, lol) [06:48:03] I’d like to do something on the projects [06:48:05] We can meet for breakfast or right after it) [06:48:42] The squirrels are surrounding the hub hotel. WMDE get out of there!!! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b9be6d3d/file_79881.jpg [07:01:33] They are part of Wikimedia Enterprise :) [07:33:56] I would like to see a widget with the live position of Jupiter satellites when I go to the Jupiter article. (re @giovi_pen: Are you an astronerd? (Aswell, lol) [07:33:57] I’d like to do something on the projects [07:33:59] We can meet for breakfast or right after it) [07:36:37] we should know the position you are at the moment so it cannot be embedded directly. probably a tool already exist somewhere in the internet lol (re @Galder: I would like to see a widget with the live position of Jupiter satellites when I go to the Jupiter article.) [07:41:56] PLEASE NOTE: There's been edits to the unconference sessions times that have caused significant scheduling issues this morning. Please ensure you double-check the start times this morning. [07:50:57] No. The relative position of each moon is practically the same for two observers in the Earth. If we have readers in Mars in the future, we could look to offering two options (re @giovi_pen: we should know the position you are at the moment so it cannot be embedded directly. probably a tool already exist somewhere in ...) [07:56:23] the position of Jupiter in the sky depends on where you are, but not so much the positions of the satellites. https://skyandtelescope.org/wp-content/plugins/observing-tools/jupiter_moons/jupiter.html is the kind of widget you're looking for. [07:56:39] TEMPIO RADIO NOTTURNA vol.3 en Tempio del Futuro Perduto, Milán · Entradas [07:56:39] https://es.ra.co/events/2405590 [07:56:51] yes, that, but inside Wikipedia (re @mikepeel: the position of Jupiter in the sky depends on where you are, but not so much the positions of the satellites. https://skyandtele...) [07:56:54] AUSTRALOPITECHNO en Main Club, Milán · Entradas [07:56:54] https://es.ra.co/events/2413568 [07:57:16] Those are some of the options for today. [07:59:49] if you look just after sunset, half way between Jupiter and the Sun is Venus. (re @itsnyoty: Some might say ufo's are outside the hotel but this is Jupiter. It's the bright star on the west) [08:07:35] How long does it take to set up a toolforge tool? Like how long to have ssh access? [08:09:09] Someome applied yesterday and was approved: https://toolsadmin.wikimedia.org/tools/membership/ [08:09:14] Do you already have you account approved? (re @itsnyoty: How long does it take to set up a toolforge tool? Like how long to have ssh access?) [08:09:18] Depends how long it takes for it to be approved ;) [08:09:52] I already have an approved account [08:11:28] atleast I think [08:12:12] I already have a tool on toolforge, so I think so [08:12:49] It will take just a few secs so.. (re @itsnyoty: I already have a tool on toolforge, so I think so) [08:12:57] Nvm, it works now. [08:12:57] @val_cio , still wanted to sit together for hiruwiki? [08:13:40] Yep now ill go at an unconference but maybe at 14 after lunch (re @itsnyoty: Nvm, it works now. [08:13:41] @val_cio , still wanted to sit together for hiruwiki?) [08:19:42] This is happening now if you're interested in how caching works and how we are fighting llms come down to room 4 n : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/507db931/file_79882.jpg [08:19:52] Hi all, for anyone interested in attending the CentralNotice Banner Editor: What's new and What's next session, it was moved to 10:15am from 11am and will start soon, by 10:30am [08:20:26] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/93ba322c/file_79883.jpg [08:21:15] And this is also going to be amazing the result of an Outreachy internship so if you're interested in how those internship work, come down to room 5! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/ee83a696/file_79884.jpg [08:31:14] I know air conditioning debates can go back and forth forever 😅 but does the venue feel colder today than yesterday to anyone else? or am I imagining things? ^^ [08:38:53] It was colder yesterday evening (re @lucaswerkmeister: I know air conditioning debates can go back and forth forever 😅 but does the venue feel colder today than yesterday to anyone el...) [08:43:59] Less people ;) (re @itsnyoty: It was colder yesterday evening) [08:45:57] Two articles I wrote yesterday were moved to the Draft namespace (I was not aware or this). [08:45:57] Can someone help me get them published? [08:45:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:EpiMedDat [08:46:00] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SILVER_Wiki [08:50:55] It is at 5 pm. Meeting point at the Hotel Entrance. (re @giovi_pen: At what time) [08:52:26] you can take a look at the notes in case you missed this session: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/hackathon2026-CentralNotice-Banner-Editor :) (re @espejolento: And this is also going to be amazing the result of an Outreachy internship so if you're interested in how those internship work,...) [08:52:38] And the quiet room is like a fridge :D (re @lucaswerkmeister: I know air conditioning debates can go back and forth forever 😅 but does the venue feel colder today than yesterday to anyone el...) [08:53:34] Ah lol, i thought that was at 11.00 but some of the times have changed 🤡 (re @espejolento: This is happening now if you're interested in how caching works and how we are fighting llms come down to room 4 n) [08:54:31] Are they any independent sources about these two topics? None of the refs in the two articles are independent from the subject as far as I can tell. (re @bkrabina: Two articles I wrote yesterday were moved to the Draft namespace (I was not aware or this). [08:54:32] Can someone help me get them publish...) [08:54:41] '50 shades of caching' is not happening @ 11am anymore? I didn't see the program updated:( [08:55:48] Same, I was expecting it to be at 11 AM. (re @Ecarg: '50 shades of caching' is not happening @ 11am anymore? I didn't see the program updated:() [08:56:26] According to a previous telegram message it might have happened earlier. [08:57:53] it's still ongoing and there's a bit of space left in the room, I think you can come in (quietly ^^) [08:57:59] room 4 [08:58:44] (it's now this part: “Dr. Strangebot, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the residential proxy by Joe - a short excursion in the world of residential proxies”) [08:58:57] Coming as well (re @lucaswerkmeister: (it's now this part: “Dr. Strangebot, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the residential proxy by Joe - a short excursio...) [08:59:29] Please take notes! ❤️ (re @CristianCantoro: Coming as well) [09:03:00] are research articles not independent sources? I put one in Literature. [09:03:00] Also, how is the process now. There are no questions or concerns in the Talk page. (re @Ideophagous: Are there any independent sources about these two topics? None of the refs in the two articles are independent from the subject ...) [09:04:49] Please do not change the schedule. It’s causing confusion for attendees. [09:04:50] We don’t have any spaces left for unconference. If you want to have a discussion please find a quiet corner within the venue. Thank you! [09:05:05] 🗓 11:15am-12:00am - more parallel sessions [09:05:06] *Thinking about Entity Usages and how to optimize them (T424793)* [09:05:08] by Flanoz [09:05:09] (Room 4 - Floor 1) [09:05:11] *MediaWiki Code2Code Search: Semantic Search to Find Code by Under-the-Surface Similarity* (T425057) [09:05:12] by Francesco Tosoni (super nabla), Indic MediaWiki Developers UG [09:05:14] (Room 5 - Floor 1) [09:05:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Program#Saturday_May_2nd [09:07:16] We should have cached this workshop 😉 (re @bubblegumelectric: Same, I was expecting it to be at 11 AM.) [09:08:11] Just for curiosity: have I just caused 3 extra notifications on IRC? since 11:05? [09:22:29] the Entity Usages session was slightly delayed (speaker wasn't aware it got rescheduled IIUC), but we're about to start in room 4! [09:36:29] For the grouppicture Bee gave us confirmation that we are allowed to have a 67 meme picture so please after the official picture we shall all do 67. [09:36:43] @admins pin this message [09:36:58] Why 67? lol (re @itsnyoty: For the grouppicture Bee gave us confirmation that we are allowed to have a 67 meme picture so please after the official picture...) [09:37:00] oh god..... [09:37:40] We must go along with the memes to attract young people.💪🤗 (re @bozzy: Why 67? lol) [09:40:00] Don’t you start (re @ChlodAlejandro: oh god.....) [09:45:36] Woah woah woah woah [09:45:38] I said "if the community agrees then we can do it" [09:45:39] Don't turn the community against me @itsnyoty, I just started! (re @itsnyoty: For the grouppicture Bee gave us confirmation that we are allowed to have a 67 meme picture so please after the official picture...) [09:46:21] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/58ddb521/nub_nub_cat.mp4 [09:46:47] I found a note pad that says "talk to Amir about databases" (or Deutsche Bahn. Instructions nuclear). If you need to talk to me. I'm in the ballroom 😁 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/8887617f/file_79888.jpg [09:46:57] 🗓 12:00am–12:30am - *group photo 📷* [09:46:57] 📍 Meet outside the main entrance to the hotel [09:46:59] 👉 Please stay there, to deploy all *67* meme pictures [09:47:53] Yes, we need to be vibin' with the kids otherwise we'll get irrelevant. 🤡 (re @itsnyoty: We must go along with the memes to attract young people.💪🤗) [09:48:57] After that let's do a Tiktok video where we all do a skibidi dance. [09:49:09] Let's reply that comment to the long emails that are happening right now on wikimedia-l [09:49:32] that's not a thing and skibidi isn't in anymore pff boomer moment right here (re @hayify: After that let's do a Tiktok video where we all do a skibidi dance.) [09:50:00] I'm very well aware of that, proving my age. 👴💀 (re @itsnyoty: that's not a thing and skibidi isn't in anymore pff boomer moment right here) [09:50:25] the monkey emotes also do the six seven : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/1bb1a0b5/file_79889.jpg [09:51:27] now I have to see this video of you doing a skibidi dance 😆 (re @hayify: After that let's do a Tiktok video where we all do a skibidi dance.) [09:52:06] Ps if you Google, “what is 67”, the page does a little shimmy [09:52:25] Someone got a promotion for that [09:55:20] no baby globe 67 got made? [09:57:33] pin please (re @bozzy: 🗓 12:00am–12:30am - group photo 📷 [09:57:35] 📍 Meet outside the main entrance to the hotel [09:57:36] 👉 Please stay there, to deploy all 67 meme pictu...) [10:00:32] REMEMBER THE TSHIRT [10:13:14] For those who have registered for the Tram City Tour:meet in the lobby at 19.45 [10:13:39] For those who registered to the Tram City Tour: [10:14:09] Sorry IRC people, I'll get it right [10:14:59] Again, for those who registered for the Tram City Tour: meeting in the lobby at 19.45, we will do a roll call at 20.05 and leave at 20.15 [10:15:30] If you're on the waiting list, please show up anyway, there might be some last minute cancellations [10:16:31] The bus will take approximately 20 minutes to reach Piazza Castello, the tour will start from there at 21.00 [10:17:10] Photos are possible, but no signs or "promotional materials" outside of the trams, inside we can do fairly what we want [10:17:49] I guess this means no photos of people wearing Wikimedia swag OUTSIDE the tram, inside is ok [10:18:29] The tour should end at 23.00, there will be a new roll call before joining the bus to be sure everyone will be on board [10:18:38] 🗓 12:30am–14:00am Lunch @ Ristorante Betulla [10:18:39] Floor 1 [10:18:43] (re @Sannita: Again, for those who registered for the Tram City Tour: meeting in the lobby at 19.45, we will do a roll call at 20.05 and leave...) [10:21:47] There's space for at least 1 person on the waiting list, I removed my sign-up [11:33:27] Are here any interfaceadmins on a language other than nl and it? [11:34:28] Testwiki? :3 (re @itsnyoty: Are here any interfaceadmins on a language other than nl and it?) [11:35:19] I'm interface admin on all wikis 😜 (re @itsnyoty: Are here any interfaceadmins on a language other than nl and it?) [11:36:43] On arywiki (re @itsnyoty: Are here any interfaceadmins on a language other than nl and it?) [11:43:32] same :P (re @Ladsgroup: I'm interface admin on all wikis 😜) [11:44:26] okay than just install hiruwiki on all, thank you very much [11:45:37] ✈️ *A note about Airport Transfers on Monday [11:45:38] * [11:45:39] -The first shuttle from the Voco hotel to Bovisa station will depart at 5:30am _instead_ of 6am [11:45:41] -Between 5:30am and 7:30am, we will only have *one shuttle running*, so please use your assigned shuttle below (times are approximate). This way, we can ensure everyone gets to the train station on time. After 7:30am, there's more flexibility. [11:45:42] *⏱️5:30am shuttle*: sponsored attendees on flights departing between 9 and 9:30am [11:45:44] *⏱️6am shuttle:* sponsored attendees on flights departing between 9:45am and 10am [11:45:45] *⏱️6:30am shuttle: *sponsored attendees on flights departing between 10:30am and 11am [11:45:47] *⏱️7am shuttle: *sponsored attendees on flights departing between 11:05am and 11:25am [11:45:48] Please check your train timetable before departing the hotel and consider buying your Malpensa Express tickets online to save time. [11:45:50] As many of you know, the* EU recently implemented an automated Entry/Exit System (EES)* and the changeover is resulting in longer than usual lines. If MXP is your point of exit from the Schengen zone (e.g., you are not connecting elsewhere in the Schengen region), *please allow yourself additional time.* [11:47:36] (re @Erin_Wikimedia: ✈️ A note about Airport Transfers on Monday [11:47:36] -The first shuttle from the Voco hotel to Bovisa station will depart at 5:30am inst...) [11:50:12] 🗓 14:00–14:30 - session: [11:50:12] *Building Pipelines for Marginalized Knowledge: From Wikibase to Wikidata and Back Again* (T423333) [11:50:14] by Superraptor123 (Clair Kronk) [11:50:15] Space 5 (floor 1) [11:50:51] enwikibooks? (re @itsnyoty: Are here any interfaceadmins on a language other than nl and it?) [11:51:18] I don't think that algebra and mathematical explanations are really needed on enwikibooks, what do you think? [11:51:40] Both are relevant on Wikibooks - we do have a few maths textbooks there. (re @itsnyoty: I don't think that algebra and mathematical explanations are really needed on enwikibooks, what do you think?) [11:52:47] If you haven't already: please fill out our survey about MediaWiki/SMW/Wikibase usage: [11:52:48] https://survey.knowledge.wiki/index.php/716248 [11:53:11] Come up to me please, let's talk :) (re @Leaderboard: Both are relevant on Wikibooks - we do have a few maths textbooks there. [11:53:11] Eg https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Linear_Algebra) [11:54:21] Where? (re @itsnyoty: Come up to me please, let's talk :)) [11:57:33] well I can but I shouldn't ;) [11:57:33] plus I'm not on site :/ (re @itsnyoty: okay than just install hiruwiki on all, thank you very much) [11:58:31] I am sitting next to Daan with a very bright blue cap in the main space (re @Leaderboard: Where?) [11:59:12] Is that table 6 or 7? [11:59:16] both [11:59:49] OK in that case there is a problem sorry: : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/18728562/file_79890.jpg [12:00:08] I'll be waiting on you tomorrow. Take the flight [12:04:13] Room 5 participants : [12:04:14] Please help with the etherpad ❤️ [12:04:15] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026__Pipeline_for_Moving_Data (re @bozzy: 🗓 14:00–14:30 - session: [12:04:17] Building Pipelines for Marginalized Knowledge: From Wikibase to Wikidata and Back Again (T423333) [12:04:18] by S...) [12:04:24] Though if I can help you online, let me know. [12:05:44] I think you should explain what makes you think so. (re @itsnyoty: I don't think that algebra and mathematical explanations are really needed on enwikibooks, what do you think?) [12:06:04] i thought it was just books but I got proven wrong [12:07:50] The group photos : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f452382f/file_79891.jpg [12:07:51] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/5cfe2a5e/file_79892.jpg [12:08:00] (will upload to Commons soon) [12:08:34] Please do as telegram's image compression is... quite extreme [12:12:13] The name of wikibooks is quite misleading and that has been annoying me for really long time. (re @itsnyoty: i thought it was just books but I got proven wrong) [12:25:25] @val_cio @piergiovanna I am working on script to count how many images are missing the `alt_text`. I am using `lmowiki` for my tests. [12:26:06] thats great! where are you at? id like to take a look (re @CristianCantoro: @val_cio @piergiovanna I am working on script to count how many images are missing the alt_text. I am using lmowiki for my tests...) [12:29:20] https://wikis.world/@samwilson/116497182491938593 [12:33:19] Same applies for all the types of companies or just "company". The latter is way better for property suggestions (re @Krinkle25: https://wikis.world/@samwilson/116497182491938593) [12:34:49] What would be a better name (re @Ladsgroup: The name of wikibooks is quite misleading and that has been annoying me for really long time.) [12:34:57] I am using Wikimedia Enterprise's HTML snapshots, btw (re @CristianCantoro: @val_cio @piergiovanna I am working on a script to count how many images are missing the alt_text. I am using lmowiki for my tes...) [12:35:08] 🗓 14:45–15:00 - session: [12:35:09] *Unconference session: Wikibase Bootstrap set, a year retrospective and discussion for the future* (T423677) [12:35:11] by Superraptor123, Olea [12:35:12] Space 5 (floor 1) [12:35:14] Can an admin please help us to add the Etherpad [1] to the 'Unconference session: Building Pipelines for Marginalized Knowledge: From Wikibase to Wikidata and Back Again (phab:T423333)' session and the Etherpad [2] to the 'Unconference session: Cool new things in JS + CSS (T423292)' to the program?? [12:35:15] [1] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_Base_Bootstrap [12:35:17] [2] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_Cool_new_things_in_JS_CSS [12:52:40] is [1] really the right etherpad for that session? the title sounds different 🤔 (re @bubblegumelectric: Can an admin please help us to add the Etherpad [1] to the 'Unconference session: Building Pipelines for Marginalized Knowledge:...) [12:53:10] (added [2]) [12:54:22] meanwhile Wikibase Bootstrap Set already has a different etherpad in the schedule, https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/2026-wikibase-bootstrap-hackathon [12:56:09] For anyone who finds it useful: If you have a loyalty account with IHG, you can chat with the hotel front desk to have your stay associated with your account to get the points for it. [12:57:14] Yes, I named it incorrectly. I created a new one [1], unfortunately Etherpad doesn't allow me to put the full name. [12:57:14] [1]: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_Building_Pipelines_for (re @lucaswerkmeister: is [1] really the right etherpad for that session? the title sounds different 🤔) [13:00:15] Is there somebody that knows how the HTML of WIkipedia articles gets generated that can help me? [13:01:33] Could you please help me to also add the Etherpad [1] for the 'Sharing Journeys: What Welcomes & What Blocks the Path of Women+ into Wikimedia Tech (T423725)' session to the schedule?? [13:01:35] [1]: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_Sharing_Journeys [13:02:57] You mean they didn’t force create you an account without you asking? ;p (re @Sdkb47: For anyone who finds it useful: If you have a loyalty account with IHG, you can chat with the hotel front desk to have your stay...) [13:05:12] 🗓 15:15–15:45 - session: [13:05:12] *Cool new things in JS + CSS *(T423292) [13:05:14] by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) [13:05:15] Space 5 (floor 1) [13:13:59]