[00:49:08] James_F: Doing a release sounds good. Maybe we could do https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/tools/codesniffer/+/1281904 ? [01:16:33] Visual report from the swing dance tonight: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3ASpirit_de_Milan_swing_dance%2C_2026.jpg [05:32:32] Is the volunteer "lofhi" here at the hackathon? [05:33:26] If that's their username, then no. (re @derektorsani: Is the volunteer "lofhi" here at the hackathon?) [05:33:50] It is on phabricator (re @BeeBee_P: If that's their Wikimedia username, then no.) [05:34:31] I am fairly confident they are not here (re @derektorsani: It is on phabricator) [05:38:25] 👋Good morning!! [05:38:26] We have reached Day 3️⃣. A few reminders as we head into our final day: [05:38:27] ⚫️ Wrap up your projects before 2pm and add them to the presentation list: https://w.wiki/MXGK [05:38:29] ⚫️ We need to vacate the meeting spaces by 5pm, so ensure you grab all your belongings before then [05:38:30] ⚫️ The 🚌 buses to downtown Milan will depart from the front of the hotel at 530pm and return rom Piaza Fontana at 10pm [05:38:32] Happy final day of hacking! 💻 [05:52:27] (I've asked in many places "Please community help with the etherpad" - in Phab, here in chat, in the room" - is the etherpad empty??) (re @nacaru: I think @bozzy was taking notes for your session) [05:53:01] . (re @bozzy: Room 5 participants : [05:53:02] Please help with the etherpad ❤️ [05:53:03] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026__Pipeline_for_M...) [05:56:07] Sorry I was personally stuck working as a "door opener/closer” [06:18:40] is there a way that toolforge supports a reset of the environment for a tool? (usecase is a dev environment) [06:32:10] How long will the slots for the showcase be? [06:34:17] You will have 2 minutes to present your project (re @Jan_ainali: How long will the slots for the showcase be?) [06:34:51] the sing-up Etherpad is here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026_Closing_Showcase [06:53:57] Help needed: [06:53:57] Thanks for adding this page in watchlist (also for the minimum, 1 week) ❤️ [06:53:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Program/Schedule [06:54:00] Since it's probably going to be "less protected" - as I requested to the help desk, so more people can *add their etherpads in advance* (not just meta administrators) 👍 [06:59:33] 🗓 09:00–10:00 - *first sessions!* [06:59:35] *Sharing Journeys: What Welcomes & What Blocks the Path of Women+ into Wikimedia Tech* (T423725) [06:59:36] by Silvia Gutiérrez, Carla Toro, Giovanna Fontenelle [06:59:38] Space 4 (floor 1) [06:59:39] *Wikimedia and the Social Web* [06:59:41] by EvanProdromou [06:59:42] Space 5 (floor 1) [07:01:37] Plenty of space in Space 5!Wikimedia and the Social Web : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/fe1cf08f/file_79927.jpg [07:02:03] Uh that seemed interesting, can't wait to read the notes (re @bozzy: Plenty of space in Space 5! [07:02:03] Wikimedia and the Social Web) [07:05:22] @New_Deal233 might interest you.. (re @bozzy: 🗓 09:00–10:00 - first sessions! [07:05:23] Sharing Journeys: What Welcomes & What Blocks the Path of Women+ into Wikimedia Tech (T423725) [07:05:24] ...) [07:06:56] We’re starting if you want to join us! (re @wikilinksbot: T423725 – Wikimedia Hackathon 2026: Sharing Journeys: What Welcomes & What Blocks the Path of Women+ into Wikimedia Tech [open]) [07:09:50] We are doing an online pirate streaming of space 5, Wikimedia and the social web 🤩 on this BigBlueButton [07:09:51] https://bbb.ch-open.ch/rooms/uhp-31l-yjn-pxd/join (re @bozzy: 🗓 09:00–10:00 - first sessions! [07:09:53] Sharing Journeys: What Welcomes & What Blocks the Path of Women+ into Wikimedia Tech (T423725) [07:09:54] ...) [07:16:16] It's actually about ActivityPub, pretty much interesting (re @Sciking: Uh that seemed interesting, can't wait to read the notes) [07:20:32] You are actually in front of the co-editor of ActivityPub if you come here lol (re @Sciking: Uh that seemed interesting, can't wait to read the notes) [07:21:40] https://locator-tool.toolforge.org/ [07:21:41] This tool has not been working for me for a while now. I am wondering if it's working for others. Would someone be able to help me figure it out? [07:23:37] While saving? (re @satdeep: https://locator-tool.toolforge.org/ [07:23:38] This tool has not been working for me for a while now. I am wondering if it's working for ...) [07:24:10] Yes! I click on save and it tells me that saved it. But no change is made on Commons. (re @bozzy: While saving?) [07:24:33] I'm not at Voco, ATM pulled a prank on me 😂 (re @bozzy: You are actually in front of the co-editor of ActivityPub if you come here lol) [07:24:54] I'm currently waiting at a bus stop [07:26:25] Waiting for the start of the Stramilano 10km race. See you all in a few hours! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6b1323eb/file_79930.jpg [07:26:26] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/60b6ee84/file_79931.jpg [07:26:55] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/39d4fecc/file_79932.jpg [07:27:12] yes, just run the toolforge build command again` toolforge build start GITHUBLINK` (re @Effeietsanders: is there a way that toolforge supports a kind of factory reset for a tool? (usecase is a dev environment) Or even a clean slate ...) [07:28:25] and then restart the service again [07:28:46] Those bib numbers are huge! Maybe a european thing? Looks fun, have a great run! (re @Ideophagous: Waiting for the start of the Stramilano 10km race. See you all in a few hours!) [07:29:01] definitly not, they are just huge here. (re @goodvibes6177: Those bib numbers are huge! Maybe a european thing? Looks fun, have a great run!) [07:29:15] At a run last week it just covered the belly [07:30:56] I missed registering the event, should have act earlier or ask here :/ [07:33:03] I registered by pure coincidence as I was passing by and I was told they were almost full. (re @Kartik: I missed registering the event, should have act earlier or ask here :/) [07:34:35] I was trying online. Bad luck. [07:54:14] ☕️ 10:00–11:00 - *Break on Floor 2 (outside Main Space)* [07:55:04] 🗓 Next sessions 11:15–12:15 - so enjoy your break! [07:55:29] Which ones? (re @bozzy: 🗓 Next sessions 11:15–12:15 - so enjoy your break!) [07:55:48] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/bb33a7a6/file_79933.jpg [07:55:58] Ty, I'm on the bus and the internet is not the best (re @val_cio: ) [08:00:59] Can someone help with me with this? I already have global IPBE. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6b6be4ab/file_79934.jpg [08:01:39] It's westflemish for saying that your ip is blocked for open proxy. Hope this helps 👍 [08:02:27] I'm sitting right next to you 😭 [08:06:52] does anyone have rights to make me admin on testwiki? I need to try a few things w the abuse filter [08:09:16] have a little puzzle for you on my shirt today. it's not obviously a Wikipedia shirt but I did buy it in Istanbul last year. [08:09:17] anyway: can you find the error? the problem is not wording or spelling or grammar. [08:14:42] please send a picture jeremy [08:22:31] what's your wiki username? (re @val_cio: does anyone have rights to make me admin on testwiki? I need to try a few things w the abuse filter) [08:22:46] I just wanna say: whatever bakery makes the snacks at break? Bellissimo! [08:22:52] Valcio (re @TheresNoTime: what's your wiki username?) [08:25:53] (done) [08:32:32] Anyone who's interested in reviewing some small Gerrit patches to the Linter and TemplateData extensions? [08:46:18] But that's Dutch? Or does vls not have valid translations for these messages, resulting in a fallback? (re @itsnyoty: It's westflemish for saying that your ip is blocked for open proxy. Hope this helps 👍) [08:49:11] Hi, if anyone else will be departing early (my flight is on 6 am) we can carpool on Uber - I’ve been given a voucher to make it on time. Feel free to contact me. [08:49:31] Probably, vls is very small (3active members) (re @Leaderboard: But the message is in Dutch? Or does vls not have valid translations for these messages, resulting in a fallback? [08:49:32] (eg this is a...) [08:50:37] does that reset everything, including folders, non-github files, permissions etc ? (re @itsnyoty: yes, just run the toolforge build command again toolforge build start GITHUBLINK) [08:53:35] Don't quote me on that but I think since you create a new build and then run the restart command, it would reset everything to the new build [08:57:52] that would be great. Does it depend on how you set up your repo? Are there specific instructions driving this? (re @itsnyoty: Don't quote me on that but I think since you create a new build and then run the restart command, it would reset everything to t...) [09:01:11] so far it looks like my files are maintained at least partially (outside the git folder?) (re @itsnyoty: Don't quote me on that but I think since you create a new build and then run the restart command, it would reset everything to t...) [09:01:48] Does anybody know if the baby globe stickers can be ordered online, or alternately if there's a handy page with the SVGs or whatever for folks to make their own? I had an inquiry from someone who say my baby globe stickers in a post ;) [09:02:02] *saw [09:02:50] I created T425248 with the report. A wierd bug is not making me log-in to wikipedia. Looking for help 🙏 (re @DaxServer: Can someone help with me with this? I already have global IPBE.) [09:03:05] besides https://www.tiktok.com/@wikipedia/video/7605315061896219922 I assume? ;) (re @Brooke: Does anybody know if the baby globe stickers can be ordered online, or alternately if there's a handy page with the SVGs or what...) [09:03:07] 🗓 11:15–12:15 - last parallel sessions 🔚 [09:03:08] *Tools That (Don’t) Break: A Toolforge Reliability Wishlist* (T424354) [09:03:09] by Arthur Puthin [09:03:11] Space 4 (floor 1) [09:03:12] *API Glow Up: Shaping the Next Generation of Wikimedia APIs* (T423361) [09:03:14] by Halley Coplin (WMF) [09:03:15] Space 5 (floor 2) [09:03:17] I would say ask this on the internal Slack, someone from Comms should be able to answer you (re @Brooke: Does anybody know if the baby globe stickers can be ordered online, or alternately if there's a handy page with the SVGs or what...) [09:03:34] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Baby_Globe (re @Brooke: Does anybody know if the baby globe stickers can be ordered online, or alternately if there's a handy page with the SVGs or what...) [09:03:48] Only one svg tho [09:03:50] *"Tools That (Don't) Break" happening in 15 minutes!* - If you're a Toolforge user, either new to it or experienced, we'd love to have you join our discussion and contribute to our understanding of the reliability needs of Tools hosted in Toolforge! (or, if you don't even know what Toolforge is, but would like to hear or even contribute... everyone is welcome! 😬) [09:03:51] We'll be running a fishbowl format, where everyone can join as much as they feel comfortable and chat about their wishes :D [09:04:37] I don't know sorry, maybe someone with a bit more toolforge experience can assist you on that (re @Effeietsanders: that would be great. Does it depend on how you set up your repo? Are there specific instructions driving this?) [09:05:34] Awesome folks I'll pass on the category for the images on commons and ask on internal comms about physical availability :) thanks! [09:07:04] (I can confirm that I cant find a sticker order page either, so it's not you!) (re @Brooke: Awesome folks I'll pass on the category for the images on commons and ask on internal comms about physical availability :) thank...) [09:07:19] who brought the Ukrainian apple juice? Really tasty [09:08:18] https://kottke.org/26/05/who-merits-the-longest-ny-times-obituaries (https://kottke.org/26/05/who-merits-the-longest-ny-times-obituaries) [09:09:43] Space 5 etherpad: (re @bozzy: 🗓 11:15–12:15 - last parallel sessions 🔚 [09:09:44] Tools That (Don’t) Break: A Toolforge Reliability Wishlist (T424354) [09:09:45] by Arthur Puthin [09:09:47] ...) [09:14:01] I have a better pic somewhere I can't find or maybe someone else will take one. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/3a37ed2d/file_79937.jpg [09:22:55] someone pin the showcase etherpad link please? (re @BeeBee_P: the sign-up Etherpad is here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026_Closing_Showcase) [09:26:08] Sorry if I missed it, but how do we add a demo video to etherpad? [09:26:59] (re @BeeBee_P: the sign-up Etherpad is here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026_Closing_Showcase) [09:27:05] pinned (re @ChlodAlejandro: someone pin the showcase etherpad link please?) [09:27:17] You'll have to upload it somewhere and link it (re @josephinelim86: Sorry if I missed it, but how do we add a demo video to etherpad?) [09:30:21] Oh thanks, guess I'll upload it to Commons? (re @Brooke: You'll have to upload it somewhere and link it) [09:31:10] Go for it! For commons you'll have to concert but there should be a tool that'll assist in that (check the usual suspects for video upload help on Commons and it'll have a link) [09:31:26] *convert [09:32:42] Specially the fuzzy blue baby globe 🌎 stickers here or general baby globe stickers. We have the sticker design for the “original” baby globe (black and white, no headphones) that we can share. (re @Brooke: Does anybody know if the baby globe stickers can be ordered online, or alternately if there's a handy page with the SVGs or what...) [09:32:54] Haha yeah, I remember talking about that pain point! It'll have to be in webm right? [09:33:16] Yeah WebM :) [09:33:36] "sorry about the complication, patents are hard" :) [09:33:43] 😂 [09:34:06] Awesome that'd be great to share too! (re @Jennifer 8.: Specially the fuzzy blue baby globe 🌎 stickers here or general baby globe stickers. We have the sticker design for the “original...) [09:49:03] For the end show, how does it work? Is it on one laptop and link from the etherpad? if so, can we have a windows computer (On the NWE hackathon every non mac users didn't know how it worked 🤣) [09:50:16] ideally, any demo that you wanna do would be done not on the device itself because of the amount of things that can go wrong when presenting [09:50:28] the general suggestions is to pre-record the demo, then just link to it in the pad [09:50:52] many a developer have lost 1 whole minute of their presentation to loading times/bugs/etc. [09:57:31] Krinkle: Let's land https://github.com/wikimedia/eslint-config-wikimedia/pull/658 before your release? (rebase not squash, please) [09:57:38] We will be using only 1 laptop, use the Etherpad to link to your présentation. [10:00:07] Hi! Anybody that could help me with a SPARQL query? [10:00:33] can a Administrator aprove my Oauth consumer registration? user name daanvr [10:04:53] in a regular week this takes me usually minutes fyi, never had to wait for it. So whoever does this: kudos! (re @daanvr: can a Administrator aprove my Oauth consumer registration? user name daanvr) [10:06:45] I'm in room 5, I am coming back in a few minutes (re @Sciking: Hi! Anybody that could help me with a SPARQL query?) [10:08:35] I would love to recommend to do not replace a macOS computer with a Windows computer pretty please :3 btw maybe this year is... the year of Linux on desktop at wmhack 🤯 [10:08:36] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418594 (re @itsnyoty: For the end show, how does it work? Is it on one laptop and link from the etherpad? if so, can we have a windows computer (On th...) [10:10:01] Also to avoid this meme during the live ihih (re @bozzy: Windows Update breaking sessions!!! 😁😁 [10:10:02] Damn Microsoft!) [10:15:06] 🗓 12:30–14:00 Lunch in Ristorante Betulla [10:15:06] 🗓 14:00–16:00 Closing showcase in the Main Space [10:15:08] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026_Closing_Showcase [10:22:16] Is it okay if I just add my Google slide to the etherpad now but add my video to the slide after 1pm? [10:22:28] Running a bit tight 😅 [10:22:34] from WikiHaus : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e07d240b/file_79940.jpg [10:33:06] I bet it will be Siebrand’s laptop again 😝 (re @itsnyoty: For the end show, how does it work? Is it on one laptop and link from the etherpad? if so, can we have a windows computer (On th...) [10:33:27] I hope not [10:33:38] Atleast, now I know how to scroll after seeing everyone fail before [10:37:48] if you're interested, today in milan there's the [[:w:stramilano]] [10:37:48] Feel free to improve the existing pages or translate them into your language / create new versions :) [10:38:15] get a remote clicker/scroller! (re @itsnyoty: Atleast, now I know how to scroll after seeing everyone fail before) [10:38:56] @Sciking does this query answer your question: [10:38:57] https://w.wiki/MYqX (re @CristianCantoro: I'm in room 5, I am coming back in a few minutes) [10:39:40] It was mostly an issue with scrolling the etherpad afaik, people tend to use the spacebar to switch slides afaik so no issue there (re @Effeietsanders: get a remote clicker/scroller!) [10:54:17] it does :) (re @CristianCantoro: @Sciking does this query answer your question? [10:54:18] https://w.wiki/MYqX) [11:07:45] So what's the plan for tonight? We all go the the same pizza joint? [11:08:21] yes, but a remote scroller you can just turn upside down if it annoys you ;) (re @sjoerddebruin: It was mostly an issue with scrolling the etherpad afaik, people tend to use the spacebar to switch slides afaik so no issue the...) [11:08:47] Are there any notes from yesterday's caching talk? [11:31:09] ⚠️ Important message: [11:31:11] If you’re planning to get on the buses for going to the city centre tonight, remember that you* must show your badge.* [11:31:12] If you don’t have your badge, you will *not* be able to get on the bus or take it to come back. If you lost yours, please come see me at the help desk so we can give you a new one before 4 pm :) [11:37:03] Is there a safe space where I can scream violently against proprietary software, without disturbing anybody else? [11:37:31] There is the tunnel to Lidl? [11:38:20] Kind of (re @tarrow: There is the tunnel to Lidl?) [11:38:28] Correct information (re @tarrow: There is the tunnel to Lidl?) [11:44:48] Help (re @tarrow: There is the tunnel to Lidl?) [11:55:40] I installed Windows today. 😡 [11:55:41] first time in at least 15 years. (re @bozzy: Is there a safe space where I can scream violently against proprietary software, without disturbing anybody else?) [11:57:00] (it's in a VM) (re @jeremy_b: I installed Windows today. 😡 [11:57:00] first time in at least 15 years.) [12:03:42] As you can see, macOS is used also this edition. [12:03:42] Just to know that Linux has not absolutely any problem. Task: [12:03:44] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T425270 (re @bozzy: I would love to recommend to do not replace a macOS computer with a Windows computer pretty please :3 btw maybe this year is... ...) [12:04:38] yeah, it's live on YouTube ! [12:06:01] can i still add my presentation to the etherpad (just the link) it's already in there [12:06:22] it's not locked like a school assignment 😉 [12:06:32] can't open it : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/1c267061/file_79941.jpg [12:14:05] Can add it for you [12:14:32] If you're unable to open Wikipedia websites from the hotel wifi, volans is looking into it (we're at the back of the main room) [12:18:31] if its needed i should be able to provide keys to connect to my home wireguard vpn [12:19:15] 🚀 Introducing WISE - Semantic search for Wikimedia Commons [12:19:15] Search images and videos using natural language and visual content (not just metadata). [12:19:17] Also supports face search and multilingual queries. [12:19:18] 👉 Try it: https://wise.wmcloud.org/ [12:19:20] 💬 Feedback welcome: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wise [12:19:34] As of now, it includes all “Media of the Day” content. With enough interest and support, we plan to expand it to all images on Wikimedia Commons. (re @gopavasanth: 🚀 Introducing WISE - Semantic search for Wikimedia Commons [12:19:35] Search images and videos using natural language and visual content (...) [12:20:36] Where can we find the livestream? [12:20:39] one day we will not use inscrutable Mac devices for the showcases [12:21:08] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHMTJB8gleQ (re @itsnyoty: Where can we find the livestream?) [12:21:28] The trackpad gestures can be surprising for some yeah (re @lucaswerkmeister: one day we will not use inscrutable Mac devices for the showcases) [12:22:29] Can I just express my appreciation for your consideration of the safe space policy? Thank you! (re @bozzy: Is there a safe space where I can scream violently against proprietary software, without disturbing anybody else?) [12:25:57] Yeah so fyi for everyone pressing hard on the trackpad pulls up some menu thing vs pressing softer which is a regular click (re @sjoerddebruin: The trackpad gestures can be surprising for some yeah) [12:27:16] That's the first thing I turn off every time I set up a mac [12:28:04] It took me literal months of owning my first MacBook before I figured out wtf was happening lmao [12:28:08] what's the shortcut for the command palette? [12:28:36] inverted trackpad or not? [12:30:47]