[02:11:20] A phone was found outside on the table with a wikilambda sticker. It is given to the Voco hotel reception. [02:39:49] Card games in the lobby have started! Come join! [04:11:30] Hi everyone, this was my first international trip and my first in-person Wikimedia Event, and I honestly learned so much and made some really special memories. [04:11:32] A big thank you to @BeeBee_P , Darsie, and the entire hardworking and cool organizing and travel team behind this Hackathon. You all made the experience smooth, warm, and memorable, really appreciate everything you did. [04:11:33] I also worked on a tool with Sanskar Dubey(remote participant). It is still in prototype stage, and we are actively improving it further. Unfortunately, because of the long list of presenters, I did not get a chance to present it, but I have added the details in the Etherpad. You can still check it out here: [04:11:35] https://wiki-semantic-img-search.vercel.app/ [04:11:36] I would really love your feedback here or in my DM. [04:11:38] So yeah, now I’m starting my 30-hour journey back home 😄 [04:11:39] Grazie di cuore 💙 [06:30:11] Anyone wants to share a taxi to the airport at around 9.30am? [06:42:00] For anyone taking the shuttles to Bovisa, they should now be running every 15 mins or so. [06:42:00] Look for license plates FT717GT or GZ559EW. [06:42:02] Any issues? Just message me. [06:43:12] I’m sitting in a very empty shuttle waiting for it to go, so don’t worry too much about crowding right now. [07:29:32] How late do the shuttles run? [07:29:57] The last one leaves at 530pm [07:30:12] Awesome that's more than plenty! :) [07:47:58] Can everyone use it from the hackathon? [07:48:52] A shuttle is leaving now if anyone's ready to go [07:49:49] I think the experiences from past events is you can use it, but scholarships and staff have priority if there are no seats left (re @itsnyoty: Can everyone use it from the hackathon?) [07:52:02] There are still seats on this one [07:52:24] This! But shuttles are leaving every 15 mins or so, so there should be enough room for anyone at this point. (re @sjoerddebruin: I think the experiences from past events is you can use it, but scholarships and staff have priority if there are no seats left) [07:53:18] Just two of us so far in this one; leaving at 10:00 [07:55:28] Alright, will take one after 12 thanks [08:01:50] Hello from london 👋 to everyone that got to sleep in :P [08:05:33] Whee :) [08:05:35] Have a nice layover! (re @goodvibes6177: Hello from london 👋 to everyone that got to sleep in :P) [08:14:17] I forgot to ask earlier: How to get ticket for S line? [08:14:40] So far, it isn't clear for me. [08:20:48] The self service machines at the station let you buy them. We did have to back up a level to choose the right destination to trigger it. [08:21:41] Current passport control status: airport employee yelling at anyone who tries to use the kiosks that they’re broken and you should go to the manual line. 🤷🏻 [08:22:41] (With notable lack of said kiosks being blocked off or anything.) [08:27:51] <3 on the Italian chapter for all your help [08:28:01] Milan Chinatown food yesterday (i sent a bunch yesterday during our trip and they wouldn’t go through without boosting so cancelling and sending one by one) : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/990075c8/file_79989.jpg [08:28:02] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/32d79022/file_79990.jpg [08:28:50] You can also buy them in the ATM app if you have a credit card. Just remember to validate them. After that there's a QR code you can scan at the gates. (re @kemayo: The self service machines at the station let you buy them. We did have to back up a level to choose the right destination to tri...) [08:28:57] Was that good? I really liked it when I tried. (re @Jennifer 8.: ) [08:29:05] For the Metro lines you can simply tap in/out with a debit card. (re @hayify: You can also buy them in the ATM app if you have a credit card. Just remember to validate them. After that there's a QR code you...) [08:30:05] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/d4169093/file_79991.jpg [08:30:06] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/245c381e/file_79992.jpg [08:30:08] There is a famous dumpling place called Ravioleria Sarpi : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/420ae897/file_79993.jpg [08:31:38] And thanks to all for another great hackathon! Hope to see you next year in Albania. [08:31:49] You can also get shaved ice (bingsu) 🍧 in Chinatown. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/c6f1a747/file_79994.jpg [08:34:15] And for those of you who like liangpi, they have legit place there and @elliot really liked! very vegetarian friendly. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/3525f595/file_79995.jpg [08:34:17] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9c5ab35a/file_79996.jpg [08:35:40] The Chinese food there in general on Via Paolo Sarpi (main street of Milan Chinatown) was really quite good. (re @Sciking: Was that good? I really liked it when I tried.) [08:37:30] And make sure to cross the turnstile in time otherwise it’ll timeout and the scammers prey on you in that tense moment 🤦‍♂️ (re @hayify: For the Metro lines you can simply tap in/out with a debit card or use the ticket in the app if it's still valid.) [08:41:01] Psa in lowercase: There’s a brand tag inside the hackathon water bottles, nice to remove it before you question things like I did for the past two days :P [08:42:27] /me has also soaked that brand tag in water before realizing it’s there 🙃 [08:48:45] Right. Mine had been sitting in there since I first filled it. why, why, why. (re @Ecarg: Psa in lowercase: There’s a brand tag inside the hackathon water bottles, nice to remove it before you question things like I di...) [08:50:55] Don't forget to upload your pictures to commons!! [09:03:40] I pushed through two bottles of paper water thinking I was just being a snob 🥲 (re @siebrand: Right. Mine had been sitting in there since I first filled it. why, why, why.) [09:03:51] Have you got your own category yet? :p (re @itsnyoty: Don't forget to upload your pictures to commons!!) [09:04:14] there's no gates for some S stations. and at some stations you don't need to scan when you pass gates. the important thing is you have a ticket active at the right time. either from a machine or in the app. S lines don't tap on board. atm.it website doesn't work without 3rd party cookie. (re @hayify: You can also buy them in the ATM app if you have a credit card. [09:04:14] Just remember to [09:04:15] validate them (in the app!). After that there's...) [09:07:35] if you are going to scan barcode from phone at a non S place (metro) maybe you're ok if you follow instructions exactly (but they contradict themselves, one part of app says 5cm distance, one part says 10cm) but I was paranoid so to be safe I set the default card for tapping on phone to a card that's disabled. just in case it registers a tap while scanning. (re@jere [09:07:35] my_b: there's [09:07:36] no gates for some S stations. and at some stations you don't need to scan when you pass gates. the important thing is yo...) [09:13:56] In the lobby now! (re @Sannita: tomorrow in the lobby at 11.15 AM) [09:20:22] Oh no… how is it now? Are you still on line? (re @kemayo: Current passport control status: airport employee yelling at anyone who tries to use the kiosks that they’re broken and you shou...) [09:21:43] Linate or Malpensa? (re @kemayo: Current passport control status: airport employee yelling at anyone who tries to use the kiosks that they’re broken and you shou...) [09:22:35] It only took about 30 minutes in line, so it wasn’t too bad. (re @Nikki: Oh no… how is it now? Are you still on line?) [09:22:46] That was Malpensa. (re @giovi_pen: Linate or Malpensa?) [09:24:24] There’s a shuttle waiting at the hotel now with plenty of seats! [09:24:27] Linate security at least was speedy, [09:24:27] I won't be going via passport control here on my way out though [09:28:02] The hotel staff found an extra swag bag in one of the meeting rooms. It's at the front desk if anyone would like an extra! Just let the chat know if you're taking it. [09:29:24] @piergiovanna (re @BeeBee_P: The hotel staff found an extra swag bag in one of the meeting rooms. It's at the front desk if anyone would like an extra! Just ...) [09:37:27] It's a pity...I have already left... (re @giovi_pen: @piergiovanna) [09:38:15] you live in Italy? we could find someone near you? (re @piergiovanna: It's a pity...I have already left...) [09:38:28] I could bring to another part of Milano [09:40:18] Maybe is easier if @val_cio take it [09:41:07] Idk i don’t think we’re meeting soon (re @giovi_pen: Maybe is easier if @val_cio take it) [10:23:53] There's a shuttle with a few spaces at the hotel currently (only us 2 on it at the moment) [10:25:27] We're aiming to take that one [10:41:56] @Auregann and I are at the airport, we wanted to say thank you to everyone who took part to the Hackathon for these three marvellous days. Thanks @BeeBee_P for organising, thanks Wikimedia Italia for the support, and thanks to everyone else who showed up. Hope to see you all in Paris for Wikimania, or next year in Tirana, or at another Wikimedia event! [10:48:16] Thank you for the last minute ride!!!! [10:51:05] I'm no good at saying goodbye, so to quote Vera Lynn: [10:51:05] 🎶 We'll meet again - don't know where don't know when, but I'm sure we'll meet again some sunny day. 🎶 [10:51:06] Safe travels everyone! [10:56:47] Hi everyone! This was my first Wikimedia Hackathon, and it was great! It was a pleasure to see friends and meet new people. Have a safe trip home everyone, and since it's May 4th, I can't help but say it...May the fourth be with you folks!!!😁 [10:59:21] 🖖 (re @piergiovanna: Hi everyone! This was my first Wikimedia Hackathon, and it was great! It was a pleasure to see friends and meet new people. Have...) [11:15:01] Leaving Milan with train now (on time!) and will hopefully arrive in Amsterdam tomorrow morning. Thanks for a good time hacking and to all organizers for a nice event! It was my first proper Wikimedia hackathon but likely not the last. [12:53:28] Live long and prosper! (re @SirMMo: 🖖) [12:59:43] The pizza of the day. Pizza Diavola : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/4cb04d8e/file_80000.jpg [13:04:11] Would be even better to have some 🍍 on it (re @itsnyoty: The pizza of the day. Pizza Diavola) [13:06:17] Ofcourse [13:39:48] I don't remember who suggested to do "prompt injection" in Wikimedia projects to help AIs to do not generate anymore evil scrapers. [13:39:50] Anyway the task is here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T425355 [13:39:51] Maybe Wikimedia Enterprise could be the "good policeman" while Wikimedia projects could do the "bad policeman" with proactive prompt injections (?) [13:39:53] Don't know. Let's talk there (?) lol [14:10:03] I think that was a throwaway joke by me ^^ (re @bozzy: I don't remember who suggested to do "prompt injection" in Wikimedia projects to help AIs to do not generate anymore evil scrape...) [14:10:30] (I was sitting in the front left corner in that session, if that matches your memory) [14:12:34] Can I mention you? lol - unknown if this is appreciated credit lol [14:21:14] sure, thanks ^^ [14:34:27] @jhsoby I discovered this as a possible pattern to copy (or use directly?) for the issue you were having with adding statements to the Wikibase Entity Page DOM. Seems amazingly well timed to be published on Friday. https://codeberg.org/magnusmanske/wikidata_utils/src/branch/main/HOWTO.md [14:34:27] As always, it's not a stable interface etc. etc. [14:35:22] Hi. Anyone from the travel team here? [14:38:40] there are WMF people outside the hotel who are talking and I can go up to them. what is the question (re @val_cio: Hi. Anyone from the travel team here?) [14:58:48] Any of you, who is still here today, wants to hang out? We, the "resilient" wikimedians, will go to the Leonardo museum at 18:30, and the go to a bar or pizzeria. [15:09:42] I visited the museum already, but I'd be happy to meet at a bar or pizzeria afterwards (re @Tohaomg: Any of you, who is still here today, wants to hang out? We, the "resilient" wikimedians, will go to the Leonardo museum at 18:30...) [15:10:30] The one near Duomo? (re @Tohaomg: Any of you, who is still here today, wants to hang out? We, the "resilient" wikimedians, will go to the Leonardo museum at 18:30...) [15:11:20] Yes (re @Sciking: The one near Duomo?) [15:13:48] Just so you can have the best informed decision, it's mostly models and reproductions, there's nothing actually his. It's more of a gimmick imho (re @Tohaomg: Yes) [15:15:37] if anyone is staying for more days, I heartily recommend the science museum (it was mentioned during the tram tour too), I've been there twice and it's amazing [15:16:56] And now they have on show one of the trams like the historic one! (re @lucaswerkmeister: if anyone is staying for more days, I heartily recommend the science museum (it was mentioned during the tram tour too), I've be...) [15:17:47] on my first visit I was so enthralled by everything else that I had to rush through the trains at the end 😭 [15:19:02] (https://wikis.world/@LucasWerkmeister/111675274052172754) [15:27:57] Thank you everyone for this amazing experience! I cannot wait to see y'all back in Paris or Tirana! Have a safe trip back home! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/50a2bc55/file_80007.jpg [15:28:27] thanks. I was planning to at least check out "high line"? it's the same place? (re @Sciking: Just so you can have the best informed decision, it's mostly models and reproductions, there's nothing actually his. It's more o...) [15:29:22] Take care and self journey home! (re @itsnyoty: Thank you everyone for this amazing experience! I cannot wait to see y'all back in Paris or Tirana! Have a safe trip back home!) [15:30:43] Nicefoto, upload it on Commons :) (re @itsnyoty: The pizza of the day. Pizza Diavola) [15:33:09] Never been there, but I saw some cool photos (re @jeremy_b: thanks. I was planning to at least check out "high line"? it's the same place?) [15:38:30] Last shuttle to train station is about to go in 3 minutes. Last call. [15:46:11] The science museum is closed on Monday but should be open tomorrow at 9 AM (I just asked at the reception) (re @lucaswerkmeister: if anyone is staying for more days, I heartily recommend the science museum (it was mentioned during the tram tour too), I've be...) [15:46:36] right :( (re @Ideophagous: The science museum is closed on Monday but should be open tomorrow at 9 AM (I just asked at the reception)) [15:47:20] Thanks everyone for a great hackathon! Just about to leave from MXP [16:08:22] 🦄💯🇮🇹 bon voyage! (re @TheresNoTime: Thanks everyone for a great hackathon! Just about to leave from MXP) [16:12:31] Nvm sorted out, thanks anyways (re @Jennifer 8.: there are WMF people outside the hotel who are talking and I can go up to them. what is the question) [16:16:56] Is it just me or anyone else facing this insatiable desire to extend hacking into the fourth day? Even tho you're home and even tho you know you need sleep? I guess my t-shirt says it all 🙈 😵‍💫 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f670b319/file_80009.jpg [16:23:33] Back home ( @Auregann will enjoy the photo) : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/4bb10a0d/file_80010.jpg [18:01:57] Other good foods from Milan Chinatown courtesy of @aikochou Liangpi (cold noodles) : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/8b1ed5d7/file_80012.jpg [18:02:40] cumin kabobs from Xinjiang : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e6313e09/file_80013.jpg [18:08:26] Try out About you-见一面https://maps.app.goo.gl/dDzNq9bVAGmuNmqUA near Cordusio. Their LanZhou beef noodle soup was good. You can also select the thickness of the noodles : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/95f9524b/file_80014.jpg