[00:58:56] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Previous renames from this username
[00:58:56] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> This username has been previously used by an account which has been renamed.
[00:58:58] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Previous renames of this account
[00:58:59] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> This account has been previously renamed.
[00:59:07] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Which changed added this function? (re @cvictorovich: Previous renames from this username
[00:59:08] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> This username has been previously used by an account which has been renamed.
[00:59:10] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Previous rename...)
[07:03:45] <andre>	 cvictorovich: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rMW212b9f6b3524c50e99e22957bf40ca3f1b076494 ?
[08:18:02] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> I don’t think this is a good design (re @cvictorovich: Which change added this function?)
[08:27:01] <andre>	 cvictorovich: Any reasons? "I don't like it" doesn't help anyone else.
[08:39:27] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Anyone should be allowed to choose unoccupied usernames, even though some of which were occupied before but since freed up
[08:40:11] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> It's been a historical source of abuse
[08:40:32] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> And abuse vectors
[08:40:35] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> For instance, I was renamed from Unite together to Ikan, and I don’t want to keep the older username, then it can be registered by anyone else
[08:41:18] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> If I’m going to prevent impersonation of myself, I would register the old username back once I got renamed (re @cvictorovich: For instance, I was renamed from Unite together to Ikan, and I don’t want to keep the older username, then it can be registered ...)
[08:41:52] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Of course not for editing, but redirect to my current username (re @cvictorovich: If I’m going to prevent impersonation of myself, I would register the old username back once I got renamed)
[08:42:38] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Is it too common, that less severe measures cannot stop it? (re @tehreedy: It's been a historical source of abuse)
[08:42:52] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> Such as?
[08:43:39] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> Pretty sure it’s been like this for years
[08:45:00] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Also, if any username that has been used before cannot be registered again, we would run out of username in the future
[08:45:28] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Especially there are many combinations that aren’t allowed on grounds that they’re offensive etc. (re @cvictorovich: Also, if any username that has been used before cannot be registered again, we would run out of username in the future)
[08:47:20] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> I doubt with as many characters as we allow… we will run out of usernames
[08:47:38] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Some projects even disallow “meaningless” usernames: but it’s hard to define meaningless
[08:47:40] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> Allowing usernames that have been renamed from, is hardly going to free up many
[08:48:51] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Forwarded from cvictorovich: Nome ininteligível,[nota 3] composto por um conjunto de caracteres repetidos ou uma sequência de seis ou mais caracteres aleatórios[nota 4], como "aaaaaaaaaaaa" ou "8i98uijkwoel3plwç"
[08:50:04] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Forwarded from cvictorovich: Italian Wikipedia has a funny policy:
[08:50:16] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Forwarded from cvictorovich: “Se ti registri l'utenza su it.wiki devi usare un nome utente in caratteri latini”
[08:50:28] <wm-bb>	 <malyacko> I don't think we've run out of character combinations on a keyboard yet. (re @cvictorovich: Also, if any username that has been used before cannot be registered again, we would run out of username in the future)
[08:50:33] <wm-bb>	 <malyacko> see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T426011
[08:50:45] <wm-bb>	 <nemoralis> 10^160 usernames (re @cvictorovich: Also, if any username that has been used before cannot be registered again, we would run out of username in the future)
[08:50:47] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> It could be: I don’t know about the exact figures (re @tehreedy: Allowing usernames that have been renamed from, is hardly going to free up many)
[08:51:27] <wm-bb>	 <malyacko> We'd prefer not to work on solving theoretical problems. If there is a real problem, then I have not yet understood what it is, sorry
[08:53:01] <wm-bb>	 <nemoralis> Even if we ever run out of combinations, we can still increase the limit by just 1 and get millions of combinations again
[08:53:35] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> I only know that each day many new usernames are occupied
[08:53:57] <wm-bb>	 <tehreedy> Wikimedia had ~80M accounts IIRC
[08:54:10] <wm-bb>	 <nemoralis> Isn't that normal? (re @cvictorovich: I only know that each day many new usernames are occupied)
[08:54:47] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Very normal. In a fast rate that I don’t really know how much (re @nemoralis: Isn't that normal?)
[08:54:52] <wm-bb>	 <nemoralis> If you think we will run out of 10^160 usernames, you are wrong
[08:55:50] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Some of which are leftovers from SUL finalization, where accounts belonging to the same person are turned into different global accounts (re @tehreedy: Wikimedia had ~80M accounts IIRC)
[08:56:27] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> @nemoralis some questions that digress. See you in DM
[08:57:37] <wm-bb>	 <malyacko> Can we somehow convince you that this is not a problem?
[09:04:55] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> You’ve convinced me. This isn’t a thing to be handled in foreseeable future — maybe never need to (re @malyacko: Can we somehow convince you that this is not a problem?)
[12:43:55] <wm-bb>	 <fuzheado> FYI, this may be relevant to the usernames discussion:
[12:43:56] <wm-bb>	 <fuzheado> https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/06/11/wikipedias-account-creation-process-is-broken/
[22:10:25] <wm-bb>	 <jeremy_b> how is this compatible with SUL (re @cvictorovich: “Se ti registri l'utenza su it.wiki devi usare un nome utente in caratteri latini”)
[23:18:51] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> But it exists! (re @jeremy_b: how is this compatible with SUL)