[04:46:24] <_joe_>	 bd808: Luis was very critical of AGPL, I remember him saying he wasn't sure even the wmf is in position to use agpl licensed software lawfully.
[04:48:01] <_joe_>	 using anything agpl-licensed is a potential liability no one wants to accept. I commend the spirit of the license, but there's clearly something deeply wrong with it
[14:40:44] <bd808>	 _joe_: to my knowledge, Luis' FUD about AGPL was based on a concern that it arguably disallows embargoed security patches.
[14:41:01] <bd808>	 I'm not sure that many others share that interpretation
[14:41:19] <bd808>	 but yes, many dislike AGPL
[14:42:13] <_joe_>	 bd808: the argument I remember was about virality - where the virality should stop isn't clear
[14:42:52] <_joe_>	 can you run AGPL software on a server with closed firmware?
[14:43:51] <_joe_>	 and the thing about security patches isn't completely FUD either, tbh