[00:00:09] made some good progress on the preliminary design tasks for the Lift Wing API integration [00:00:46] did a first pass on the initial draft of api spec this afternoon, will clean it up tomorrow and look to get some feedback next week [00:01:05] things are starting to come together nicely :) [07:19:02] good morning! [07:19:35] I just got something a little weird from Kubeflow upstream, namely that KFserving will be promoted/rebranded to Kserve - https://github.com/kserve/kserve [07:19:55] for us this means that version 0.6 of kfserving will be the last, kserve will start from 0.7 [07:20:12] and in the picture of the new stack they state Istio + Knative optional [07:20:25] something that I didn't expect.. I asked some clarifcation to upstream on slack [07:45:00] 👀 ... 😲 [07:57:59] more on this: https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/kubeflow-discuss/c/ooUJRmDfsyQ [10:42:18] * elukey lunch! [13:34:47] from the kfserving slack chan [13:34:49] "we are working on the migration script for kfserving-> kserve transition and kserve 0.7 release is going to support raw kubernetes deployment without knative/istio. (edited) " [13:36:34] I think that istio+knative still makes sense to us, especially due to all the investment in adding those layers [13:36:39] but I am a little frustrated [15:19:45] the code change to skip istio/knative seems to be https://github.com/kubeflow/kfserving/pull/1508/files [15:39:58] 10Lift-Wing, 10Machine-Learning-Team, 10ORES, 10artificial-intelligence, and 2 others: Developing the `algo-accountability` repository - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290746 (10Isaac) @Htriedman thanks for sharing this! Can I get some details about the Wikidata component to this? In what ways is Wikid... [16:15:32] o/ [16:16:05] elukey: i heard about kserve from theofpa, my understanding is that project will be under the linux foundation going forward [16:16:53] either way istio + knative are worthwhile for us still (and hopefully others at wmf too) [16:21:01] do we know if the 0.7 release will still support istio & knative as an option? [16:21:31] accraze: yeah but we may not have chosen them, most of the times I think that knative and istio are way more overkill than the benefits they bring [16:21:46] lol good point [16:22:24] plus there is some hidden complexity, like their young state - knative has not reached 1.x and it rightfully changes requirements every now and then (like k8s versions) [16:22:40] istio is more stable on this front [16:22:54] but for us it will be mandatory to upgrade k8s asap [16:23:29] since we cannot upgrade knative atm (or better, 1.16 is not supported in recent versions, so any bug becomes a "Feature" :D [16:24:17] ah i forgot about k8s version [16:25:16] istio same thing, the current version is not supported/tested for 1.16 [16:25:36] it works for us, and knative may work as well, but.. [16:26:05] I jumped to 1.9.5 for istio due to the various CVEs that were fixed, we cannot really rely on old versions with security bugs [16:28:27] anyway, going to check everything next week, it was a little rant :D [16:28:32] have a good day and weekend! [16:28:40] haha yeah -- pleasant way to end the week ;) [16:28:53] have a good weekend elukey! [17:27:25] 10Lift-Wing, 10Machine-Learning-Team (Active Tasks): API Gateway Integration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288789 (10ACraze) Took a first pass at the Lift Wing API spec yesterday: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QdwndQGFKbYyZyFkZHPl3nphddERiSqvopkfOFEavTU/edit?usp=sharing I created the Open API ref... [17:30:36] made my first repo in wmf gitlab yesterday (liftwing-api spec), pretty nice so far! [17:30:39] https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/Accraze/liftwing-api [19:56:20] cool! [22:47:20] 10Lift-Wing, 10Machine-Learning-Team, 10ORES, 10artificial-intelligence, and 2 others: Developing the `algo-accountability` repository - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290746 (10ACraze) > Why not have "Data hosting service" in the same way there is "Model hosting service"? @Isaac I think this is the lo...