[20:15:22] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: does https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/805912 look ok?
[23:03:48] <James_F>	 TimStarling: Do you know if there's a plan to announce that we're moving to 8.1 on wikitech-l or whatever? 
[23:05:02] <TimStarling>	 no such plans have been made
[23:05:24] <TimStarling>	 also the timeline is unclear -- serviceops are saying that they want to do it after migrating MW to k8s
[23:05:28] <James_F>	 It'd be nice to do so, so that extension authors aren't entirely shocked when CI switches over and breaks for them.
[23:05:46] <James_F>	 Sure, but "hey this is happening soon-ish, start thinking about it if you've not already" wouldn't be bad.
[23:06:04] <TimStarling>	 I can write something
[23:06:05] <James_F>	 I can write a draft announcement but it's not really my call that this is happening so it shouldn't come from me. :-)
[23:06:17] <James_F>	 Sure, I can leave it to you too, that's fine.
[23:06:43] <TimStarling>	 it's certainly true that MW devs have to support 8.1 now
[23:07:08] <TimStarling>	 my current project is to finish the dev work on 8.1 and put the ball in SRE's court
[23:07:14] <James_F>	 MW core devs, yes. You can have extensions that don't support 8.1 and things will still pass.
[23:07:22] <James_F>	 I guessed. :-) Nice work.
[23:07:31] <James_F>	 Wikibase feels very close, then we can get the gate voting.
[23:07:40] <James_F>	 At which point we'll probably just throw the whole switch.
[23:32:49] <James_F>	 TimStarling: Yes, composer doesn't delete files. Ocassionally for mediawiki/vendor I delete everything and re-build, and see what files are 'changed'.