[04:36:26] TimStarling: What behaviour do you want to vary by load.php vs OutputPage? Note that to be encoded regardless of context. [10:24:41] Krinkle: you might like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5NrevFtbU [10:25:44] I'm not agreeing with 100% of it but there is a point, and lots of clean code ideas led to an over-engineered bloated code rather more maintainable or more readable