[09:48:03] <gehel>	 tanny411: mpham will skip the WDQS Analysis meeting today. Since it's only the 2 of us, I'm canceling it. Ping me if you need me on anything, other wise take it easy today and see you next year!
[09:48:41] <tanny411>	 sure. enjoy!
[13:59:53] <inflatador>	 Greetings to all Searchers and Discoverers!
[14:54:26] <gehel>	 o/
[15:09:09] <inflatador>	 gehel or anyone else, I'm trying to set up Horizon access, but I get the message "You are not authorized for any projects or domains." when I try to login to https://horizon.wikimedia.org . Who can add me to a project?
[15:11:59] <gehel>	 inflatador: what's your shell name?
[15:13:19] <gehel>	 looks like it is bking. I was expecting it to be inflatador
[15:14:24] <gehel>	 you should now be a member of a few projects
[15:14:44] <inflatador>	 Cool, thanks!
[15:17:31] <inflatador>	 Confirmed, I am in bastion, deployment-prep, search, and wikidata-query projects now
[15:18:05] <gehel>	 sounds good!
[15:55:36] <gehel>	 inflatador: I just saw your request for Loomio access
[15:55:45] <gehel>	 I'm not sure we're still using it for anything
[15:56:12] <gehel>	 ejoseph: as the previous newest hire, did you get access to Loomio? Did you found out if we are still using it?
[15:58:14] <gehel>	 latest activity I see seems to be from 2017. inflatador can you remove loomio from our onboarding docs? I don't think it is valid anymore
[15:59:10] <inflatador>	 Sure
[16:00:12] <ejoseph>	 I never accessed lookup
[16:00:22] <ejoseph>	 Loomio
[16:00:47] <ejoseph>	 Errand
[16:02:26] <inflatador>	 oh yeah, looks like Loomio is definitely unused https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_Incubator
[16:13:42] <majavah>	 hey! does elasticsearch (the cirrussearch cluster in deployment-prep) use tls for inter-node communication too or just for client traffic (via elasticsearch::tlsproxy so nginx)?
[16:13:57] <gehel>	 majavah: only for client traffic
[16:14:23] <majavah>	 that was a fast answer, thanks :D
[16:14:29] <gehel>	 :)
[16:14:41] <gehel>	 last fast answer because I start the holiday!
[16:14:53] <majavah>	 for context, the deployment-prep cluster is running stretch and I'm looking into how easy it would be to upgrade to buster/bullseye
[16:15:44] <gehel>	 majavah: cool! We will be working on migrating elasticsearch to bullseye + JDK11 in Q3. You should sync up with ryankemper and inflatador !
[16:15:57] <gehel>	 And also Elasticsearch 7.x
[16:16:16] <majavah>	 oh, awesome
[16:16:16] <gehel>	 Bullseye + JDK11 should not cause much issue
[16:17:02] <inflatador>	 do we use ES's bundled JDK or install separately?
[16:17:49] <gehel>	 We use their debian packages, I don't think they have a version with bundled JDK
[16:18:36] <majavah>	 so the elasticsearch upgrade will be tied to os + jdk? in other words, does it make sense to upgrade the nodes to bullseye before you're ready with elasticsearch 7?
[16:19:00] <gehel>	 I don't think it changes much either way
[16:19:23] <gehel>	 We want to do them at around the same time, since it's all going to require testing
[16:20:00] <gehel>	 for production, it's probably easier to do everything at the same time to cut on the number of long and boring cluster restarts
[16:23:25] <gehel>	 Time to start the holiday! Have fun! See you all next year!
[16:24:28] <volans>	 enjoy!
[16:24:34] <gehel>	 you too!
[16:25:00] <RhinosF1>	 Have a good holiday
[16:43:03] <inflatador>	 AFAIK, the ES package from the elastic repos does have a bundled JDK
[16:46:17] <inflatador>	 Ah! It looks like that practice only started with ES 7
[16:46:33] <inflatador>	 https://gigi.nullneuron.net/gigilabs/bundled-jdk-in-elasticsearch-7/
[16:48:08] <inflatador>	 working out, back in ~30
[17:23:36] <inflatador>	 and back
[17:26:38] <inflatador>	 Need to step away again. I accidentally mailed something very expensive without postage, and the post office is telling me conflicting things about where it is. Back as soon as I can
[18:13:45] <inflatador>	 No luck with my pkg, but I am back
[18:17:10] <RhinosF1>	 Whose it with inflatador
[18:19:10] <inflatador>	 US postal service. First they told me it would be returned in a couple of days, now they're telling me it could be up to a month
[18:19:38] <inflatador>	 either way, I screwed that one up
[18:23:22] <RhinosF1>	 Ah
[18:24:33] <RhinosF1>	 That reminded me to check mine
[18:24:49] <RhinosF1>	 It's due for despatch this evening. Pretty sure it won't be on time
[18:25:06] <RhinosF1>	 Yeah deliver by Jan 4
[18:25:56] <inflatador>	 Dang
[18:28:18] <RhinosF1>	 11 days for what should be next day delivery is fun
[18:28:25] <RhinosF1>	 At least delivery is free
[18:53:22] <inflatador>	 lunch, back in ~30
[19:49:01] <inflatador>	 and back(sorry, pharmacy was crazy)
[23:09:34] <inflatador>	 Have a great holiday, all! See ya Jan 4th