[07:38:11] <dcausse>	 the updater producer died in eqiad...
[07:43:25] <dcausse>	 seems kafka related...
[07:43:56] <dcausse>	 but surprisingly it stopped retrying to restart...
[08:26:00] <atsukoito>	 good morning!
[08:26:24] <atsukoito>	 the translate script was working all night btw https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T425377#12005913
[08:26:40] <dcausse>	 atsukoito: hi!
[08:27:27] <atsukoito>	 we are at 82% by count
[08:28:14] <dcausse>	 yes I remember something slow but I did not expect it to take that long, but that was more than 5 years ago that I ran this script
[08:29:08] <atsukoito>	 lessons learned: `--dblist` option is not useful with `ttmserver-export.php` script, because if it gets a single indexing error, it will return non-zero exit code and this will stop the progress
[08:29:08] <dcausse>	 atsukoito: possibly something to consider to speed-up indexing (and perhaps querying) is adjusting the number of shards to something greater than 1
[08:29:45] <dcausse>	 atsukoito: I'll take a look at the dblist issue, it might need a cleanup in mw-config
[08:29:46] <atsukoito>	 we have codfw, will try
[08:30:10] <dcausse>	 atsukoito: was it on collabwiki that it failed?
[08:30:43] <atsukoito>	 collabwiki and otrs_wikiwiki
[08:30:51] <dcausse>	 ack
[08:31:49] <atsukoito>	 still, `metawiki !!! Some threads failed. Review the script output !!!` will stop execution. maybe this one should be an error condition
[08:33:31] <atsukoito>	 ptwikisource is also missing
[08:34:33] <dcausse>	 sigh...
[08:36:19] <dcausse>	 prod index have 5600825 docs (5.5gb/16.5gb)
[08:54:27] <dcausse>	 atsukoito: so indeed the translate dblist is a superset of the wikis where translation memories (the ttmserver index) is required, it's at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/mediawiki-config/+/28d41f67aabe457f3fbd7fe41757a00e53156072/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php#8631
[08:54:48] <dcausse>	 so a local dblist is required or we make another dblist in mw-config
[08:55:21] <dcausse>	 metawiki should not have failed tho
[08:56:46] <atsukoito>	 metawiki has failed because there was a single connection failure for an article, it has finished re-indexing other articles but exited with non-zero code
[08:56:58] <dcausse>	 ah ok
[08:57:19] <dcausse>	 to clarify wmgUseTranslationMemory is only used when wmgUseTranslate is true (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/mediawiki-config/+/28d41f67aabe457f3fbd7fe41757a00e53156072/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php#8558)
[08:57:21] <atsukoito>	 I'll make a note to the operations wiki about skipping those 4 wikis
[08:57:28] <dcausse>	 sure
[09:40:37] <dcausse>	 errand
[12:31:30] <ebernhardson>	 \o
[12:32:56] <dcausse>	 o/
[13:53:13] <atsukoito>	 brouberol mentions that the maintenance script penalty might be from a tls penalty on write.. i'll try doing reindexing with services_proxy enabled
[13:55:38] <dcausse>	 sure
[14:05:47] <atsukoito>	 hi, on this dashboard https://grafana.wikimedia.org/goto/afotivinyjuo0f?orgId=1 in "per-query type", can we somehow see ttmserver requests?
[14:06:26] <ebernhardson>	 hmm, checking. 
[14:09:22] <dcausse>	 I don't think translate produces metric, it'd have to use some cirrus classes for that but I don't think it does
[14:09:58] <ebernhardson>	 if they set the 'stats' key in queries we would have some data, but not seeing that
[14:10:09] <inflatador>	 <o/
[14:10:17] <ebernhardson>	 it would only be server-side data, but would be something
[14:12:57] <dcausse>	 o/
[14:13:28] <ebernhardson>	 surprised Query doesn't have a specific method for those stats groups, in cirrus we use $query->addParam( 'stats', $fo )
[14:13:40] <dcausse>	 yes...
[15:03:08] <ebernhardson>	 https://github.com/mattpocock/skills
[15:05:17] <pfischer>	 Hi, I can't make it to the retro today, have some short term family obligations
[15:09:12] <ebernhardson>	 dcausse: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P94086
[15:09:16] <ebernhardson>	 Trey314159: ^^
[16:05:29] <ebernhardson>	 dcausse: https://github.com/mattpocock/skills/tree/main/skills
[16:11:50] <dcausse>	 thanks!
[16:57:53] <Trey314159>	 My blog post on second-try autocomplete searches was published this morning, for anyone who is interested: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/06/11/do-what-i-mean-second-try-suggestions-for-wrong-keyboard-and-transliterated-search/
[17:03:28] <dcausse>	 \o/
[17:04:43] <ebernhardson>	 indeed, that looks awesome!
[17:07:17] <Trey314159>	 Thanks!
[17:08:53] <ebernhardson>	 if ya'll didn't notice in slack #product-tech-dept there are signups for an o'reilly account, which (iiuc) gets you access to e-book versions of most things o'reilly has published. I rarely use books, but might be some things there
[17:13:16] <dcausse>	 thanks!
[17:20:59] <dcausse>	 dinner
[17:44:53] <inflatador>	 ooh, thanks for that