[00:40:23] 10serviceops, 10wikidiff2: Deploy wikidiff2 1.14.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340087 (10tstarling) [07:48:21] 10serviceops, 10SRE, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Performance-Team (Radar): Raise limit of $wgMaxArticleSize for Hebrew Wikisource - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275319 (10Aklapper) @neriah: No but anyone who wants to discuss this topic is free to post on the mailing list and explain the topic. [13:01:57] 10serviceops, 10Mobile-Content-Service, 10Product-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog-Deprecated, 10RESTbase Sunsetting, and 2 others: Setup allowed list for MCS decom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340036 (10MSantos) >>! In T340036#8952843, @akosiaris wrote: >>>! In T340036#8952836, @MSantos wrote: >> Sound... [13:03:57] 10serviceops, 10AbuseFilter, 10SRE, 10PHP 7.4 support: Regular expression "х[ÿý]и" match "х и" in Abusefilter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340068 (10Urbanecm) Adding some tags. Per the following conversation in -tech, this issue is caused by something within our php7.4-cli package: `lang=irc 10serviceops, 10AbuseFilter, 10SRE, 10PHP 7.4 support: Regular expression "х[ÿý]и" match "х и" in Abusefilter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340068 (10Daimona) Additional notes from IRC: `lang=irc Daimona: "Bytes in the string which are not valid UTF-8, and UTF-8 characters which do not ex... [14:30:33] 10serviceops, 10Content-Transform-Team-WIP, 10Mobile-Content-Service, 10RESTbase Sunsetting, and 2 others: Setup allowed list for MCS decom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340036 (10MSantos) [15:23:37] 10serviceops, 10Content-Transform-Team-WIP, 10Mobile-Content-Service, 10RESTbase Sunsetting, and 2 others: Setup allowed list for MCS decom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340036 (10akosiaris) Rules created, but NOT enabled, The corresponding VCL is ` // FILTER T340036 // Give wikiwand and kiwix an... [15:29:37] 10serviceops, 10Data-Engineering, 10Event-Platform Value Stream: Flink k8s operator in staging sometimes will not sync changes to FlinkDeployments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340059 (10JMeybohm) Did that happen in DSE as well? Are there logs (from the operator, k8s events etc.)? > If we try to do a... [15:56:55] 10serviceops, 10Content-Transform-Team-WIP, 10Mobile-Content-Service, 10RESTbase Sunsetting, and 2 others: Setup allowed list for MCS decom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340036 (10MSantos) @akosiaris the deadline we defined for the deprecation is July 1st 2023, we can flip the switch then. Does the... [16:21:56] 10serviceops, 10Data-Engineering, 10Event-Platform Value Stream: Flink k8s operator in staging sometimes will not sync changes to FlinkDeployments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340059 (10Ottomata) No, we've only seen it in staging. There are some suspicious events in both the flink-operator and the a... [17:18:34] 10serviceops, 10All-and-every-Wikisource, 10Thumbor, 10MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.13; 2023-06-13): Thumbor fails to render thumbnails of djvu/tiff/pdf files quite often in eqiad - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337649 (10Snaevar) Well, we still need to wait for a thumbnail for the first page in 1024px,... [17:35:02] Hey, question about T340087 if someone in the know has a moment — solely out of curiosity, how would a new deb/build of wikidiff2 be deployed to the beta cluster? [17:35:21] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340087, as that didn't seem to link.. [18:18:26] It [18:19:30] The deb would be available at the same time for both production and deployment -prep, although that's tangential to your question [18:19:59] But the answer is usually some manual apt install [18:20:14] Production has deb-deploy though [18:20:24] And that's what we ll use there [18:24:54] interesting, thank you :) [18:26:19] so theoretically wikidiff2 could just be built from source and the extension loaded for the two beta cluster appservers? (if the alt. is a manual apt install on those two appservers?) [19:13:09] or you can tell puppet to install it. role::beta::mediawiki includes profile::beta::mediawiki_package and if you added "wikidiff2" to that list that is already there of other packages.. and run puppet.. it should just install it and work.. as soon as it's imported in prod APT repo [19:14:14] (and if the the Wikimedia APT repo is already in sources.ist, but I would expect it to be) [19:23:48] mutante: wikidiff2 is already installed (from a deb), TNT is asking about deploying an updates version [19:27:11] ah, yea. so the difference there would be whether "ensure latest" is added as the argument to ensure_packages. if it was, it would always pull the latest version on each puppet run and nobody would have to manually do it. the way it is now it will just ensure that _some_ version of it is installed and it needs the manual upgrade [19:29:00] it may not be an option in ensure_packages yet, it can currently take "installed" or "present" so yea.. it would work with regular package{} though [19:35:35] that's also irrelevant given the unattended-upgrades config on wmcs instances [19:35:56] the main thing is getting an updated .deb to a repository that the beta hosts are using [19:36:34] why dont they just use apt.wikimedia.org though [19:37:19] it's a public repo that anyone could use [19:37:28] and that's where it gets imported for prod [19:41:56] that might be an option, yes. but for someone not familiar with our packaging conventions and with no access to upload packages there, "just use it" is not a helpful answer to the original question [19:44:08] the answer was already given, these are other options. I am out at this point, not argueing [20:24:09] TheresNoTime: yes. Theoretically that's totally possible. [22:29:27] 10serviceops, 10Content-Transform-Team-WIP, 10Mobile-Content-Service, 10RESTbase Sunsetting, and 2 others: Setup allowed list for MCS decom - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340036 (10akosiaris) >>! In T340036#8956346, @MSantos wrote: > @akosiaris the deadline we defined for the deprecation is July 1st... [23:39:57] 10serviceops, 10wikidiff2, 10Better-Diffs-2023: Deploy wikidiff2 1.14.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T340087 (10Samwilson)