[06:49:31] elukey: I'm around [06:49:36] wayt too late xd [06:49:46] and unrlelated, nm [10:05:18] arturo: I agree yes, toolforge seems ok, it can definitely wait! [10:06:36] andrewbogott: the change is what it seems that triggered the problem, we'd need to verify it and find a long term solution for wmf-certificates in cloud