[10:26:16] <kormat>	 godog: morning! 2 more pieces of cronspam from pontoon for you: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P17839#91513
[10:27:10] <godog>	 kormat: *sigh* sorry about that
[10:27:32] <kormat>	 godog: it's still a huge improvement, so i'm not complaining :)
[10:28:34] <godog>	 hehe
[10:30:03] <godog>	 yeah the email blackhole as a stopgap sounds appealing, I'll see if I can get to that short term
[10:31:19] <kormat>	 godog: the other concern i have is that implementing a catch-all for outgoing cronspam is likely to be reactive, rather than proactive. i.e. you need to find new destination email addresses as cronjobs get created/changed and setup a redirect for them
[10:31:37] <kormat>	 so if you know you don't need the email, just blackholing everything is really appealing
[10:31:53] <XioNoX>	 +1
[10:32:31] <kormat>	 if you do specifically want the emails, then you need to be paying attention
[10:33:24] <kormat>	 (hence my vote for it to be opt-in)
[10:33:32] <godog>	 I tend to agree yeah, I'd imagine though finding a new destination is going to be per-stack rather than per-cronjob, as in all cronjobs basically mail root
[10:33:55] <godog>	 but yeah we don't need more cron spam
[10:33:59] <kormat>	 godog: the rancid cronjob didn't, for example
[10:34:13] <godog>	 that's rancid itself not the cronjob afaik
[10:34:37] <kormat>	 well, ok. then let's not make it specific to cron, my apologies :)
[10:34:45] <kormat>	 $thingswhichsendemails ;)
[10:34:47] <godog>	 but yeah nevertheless not everything mails root
[11:23:05] <paravoid>	 last call for an SRE session on Monday
[11:24:40] <btullis>	 paravoid: I have something cooking, but it's not ready yet. 
[11:30:28] <btullis>	 Maybe in a couple of weeks..?
[16:53:30] <majavah>	 anyone willing to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/742168/ ($HOME changes)?
[17:00:21] <jynus>	 I can merge-
[17:00:51] <jynus>	 I am guessing you know that will add colors to non-interactive shells, too? :-)
[17:01:46] <jynus>	 ^ majavah 
[17:04:19] <majavah>	 I didn't, let me adjust, a sec
[17:04:46] <jynus>	 I don't think it is an issue, as long as you are aware
[17:05:11] <majavah>	 it's probably fine
[17:07:13] <jynus>	 your patch also let me saw an (unrelated) problem on the repo, so thanks
[17:08:33] <jynus>	 what's a host you have access to to test?
[17:09:41] <majavah>	 I'm testing on cloudcontrol1005
[17:10:13] <jynus>	 ah, true, you have root, so can do it on your own :-)
[17:10:51] <majavah>	 works fine, thanks
[17:11:06] <jynus>	 yep, I double checked, all good