[06:28:28] does SRE have a logo? [06:30:10] what? [06:32:38] I'm working on a presentation and was wondering if there's some graphical element like a logo I can use besides writing "SRE" [06:32:50] e.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185733#4556547 [06:38:33] None free that I could think - maybe https://twitter.com/googlesre ? [06:43:17] hmm, I like the basic structure of that one [06:43:22] I skimmed through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Red,_green,_and_blue [06:43:46] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WV_Get_Escape_6.svg has like a traffic/netops vibe to it [06:45:38] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki-voyage-logo.svg heh [07:03:06] How did this one get approved for anything: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Red,_green,_and_blue#/media/File:Wikty_no_text_up.png [07:03:31] I think that's one of the failed logo proposals heh [07:04:18] about half the logos on that page are failed proposals but nice or funny enough that people will utilize them for other projects (e.g. the MediaWiki-Vagrant logo was a failed logo proposal for Wikidata) [07:06:44] There's one with a goat, I like that one [07:12:29] link me the goat [07:12:34] there are never enough goats [07:28:09] apergos: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Red,_green,_and_blue#/media/File:Goatification_logo.svg [07:31:37] ah,. bd808's goat, yep :-) a keeper! [07:47:48] legoktm: or you can use something that resemble the wikitech page structure for the subteams, like: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SRE/Infrastructure_Foundations [07:47:56] but no, official logo ain't one [08:05:12] <_joe_> I strongly disagree with all of the above. [08:05:41] <_joe_> if we have a logo, it must be https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harlock_Jolly_Roger.svg [08:05:46] <_joe_> legoktm: ^^ [08:06:21] Isn't that the old systems administrator flags, from before we all became SREs [08:06:46] <_joe_> slyngs: we changed in denomination but not in spirit, of course. [08:07:01] <_joe_> although I don't think I ever qualified as a sysadmin [08:07:16] <_joe_> I come from development, and before that research [08:07:20] Don't you have a beard? [08:07:31] <_joe_> not atm :P [08:07:37] Oh, then no [08:08:26] At some point we went from systems administrator and Perl to SRE and Python [08:08:27] <_joe_> I usually do [08:08:49] <_joe_> I thought it was devops and python, then SRE and golang [08:09:18] That makes more sense actually [08:09:54] <_joe_> I love all three languages btw, and I came to just mildly despise ruby over the years [08:10:08] <_joe_> well written ruby can be very convenient for automation tasks [08:10:24] I can live with Ruby, even if I find it a bit confusing. Rust I don't get [08:10:32] <_joe_> the problem is that ruby, like perl, allows people way too much freedom [08:10:45] <_joe_> uh oh let's hope legoktm isn't reading right now [08:11:05] I was about to say that now it's going to be production engineer and rust :-P [08:11:10] <_joe_> slyngs: rust definitely doesn't make much sense in our realm of work, but it does make sense in other contexts [08:11:12] I usually ignore pings this late but "Rust" will wake me up any time of the day [08:11:21] lol [08:11:21] Believing that people with to much freedom will cause problems do sound a lot like a systems administrator [08:11:22] <_joe_> :D [08:11:25] _joe_: I will use that as a placeholder for now and hope that volans comes up with something better in the meantime [08:11:54] 01:10:25 I can live with Ruby, even if I find it a bit confusing. Rust I don't get <-- hello reverse me! [08:12:00] <_joe_> legoktm: oh shit I forgot, this is not very late, it's almost early morning [08:12:02] <_joe_> go to bed! [08:12:03] * volans will not get nerdsniped into a logo context [08:12:25] I'm temporarily back in PT so it's not too late, just my "normal" sleep schedule [08:12:31] <_joe_> ahhh ok [08:12:31] I really like the goal and the idea of Rust, but they stuffed way to much into the language for me to fit everything in my tiny head [08:13:00] <_joe_> legoktm: wait, I just realized you're wayyy too young for having watched Captain Harlock, probably [08:13:14] <_joe_> sigh when your pop culture references give away you're old [08:13:45] slyngs: you might enjoy or at least be interested in reading https://www.ncameron.org/blog/complexity/ - the language becoming too complex is the second biggest concern Rust users have [08:14:20] _joe_: luckily you've mentioned it to me before, so I wasn't totally clueless, but yes, I never watched it [08:16:09] <_joe_> and they make y'all watch star wars [08:17:04] <_joe_> I mean it makes sense; harlock is part che guevara, part blackbeard, part Capt. Kirk - too good and too subversive not to be "dangerous" for young minds. [08:22:26] T312067 [08:22:26] T312067: SRE needs a logo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312067 [08:22:29] good night! [08:24:22] sorry, forgot to plug #wikimedia-rust as a mostly quiet place we discuss Rust-y things [08:52:40] <_joe_> lol [09:01:15] legoktm: you sure T312067 isn't `UBN!` ? /j [09:01:15] T312067: SRE needs a logo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312067 [09:04:52] TheresNoTime: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bored.gif :P [12:45:00] FYI, I'm disabling puppet in codfw for ~ 5 mins [19:05:35] brett: ready for me to merge 'BCornwall: prometheus: Add custom vm.max_map_count metric' ? [19:05:52] andrewbogott: Yes! I was going to do that myself but happy to have someone else do it :) [19:06:01] done [19:06:06] gracias [19:40:01] paged because of labweb [19:40:05] wikitech [19:40:11] I think I saw ongoing maintenance though [21:20:15] FYI, I've added ipv6 DNS addresses to lvs in codfw but properly this time [22:01:36] Though I would be interested in knowing why there are DNS names with iface names in them, e.g. vl2020-enp175s0f1d1.lvs2009.codfw.wmnet. usflo would be in the format vl1234.lvs2345.ulsfo.wmnet - why is it different in codfw? [22:05:58] It's perplexing because the iface names in the DNS name doesn't add up to the iface the IP is attached to