[15:35:39] <urandom>	 If there are no objections, I'm going to de-pool sessionstore in codfw (currently < 400 req/sec) to upgrade Cassandra to 3.11.14 (very minor upgrade)
[16:55:50] <urandom>	 Ok, all done (and looks good).  I'll monitor it, and plan to do eqiad a little later if possible.
[20:24:15] <urandom>	 Ok, same thing; If there are no objections, I'll proceed with eqiad, depooling sessionstore and upgrading Cassandra
[20:44:17] <jhathaway>	 curious, anyone know why we need to compile are own mariadb clients? see, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/operations/puppet/+/refs/heads/production/modules/profile/manifests/mariadb/packages_client.pp#11
[20:51:52] <jynus>	 jhathaway- we don't, we did it just for maximum compatibility for production (linking to openssh) I belive the debian one link to another ssl library and doesn't necesarilly match the exact server version
[20:52:18] <jynus>	 in other words, it is a package we get for free when compiling the server
[20:52:56] <jynus>	 but unless you have mw db needs, you may use the debian one
[20:53:11] <jhathaway>	 got it, thanks!
[20:53:45] <jynus>	 packages_client.pp is only supposed to be used by cumin, not by random hosts
[20:53:51] <jhathaway>	 nod
[20:54:45] <jynus>	 and even that class allows for custom client packages
[20:56:19] <jhathaway>	 the fail message made me curious, as if providing your own vanilla client was dangerous
[20:56:35] <jynus>	 foor the root client profile, it is
[20:57:16] <jynus>	 (cumin), otherwise, there is a generic mariadb profile for random clients
[20:58:05] <jhathaway>	 ah, interesting
[20:58:19] <jynus>	 the idea being having 100 control for the stack for mw /production admin usage
[20:58:23] <jynus>	 100%
[20:58:35] <jynus>	 about the version installed
[21:03:28] <jhathaway>	 make sense
[21:03:32] <jhathaway>	 *makes
[21:05:20] <jynus>	 for example, mysql broke the client protocol a few times, or to control tls compatiblity, specially back in the day
[21:07:05] <jynus>	 it is one of those things that was absolutely necesary years ago, and now it is nice to have but not a big deal
[21:08:14] <jhathaway>	 yeah, once you are bitten by those types of problems I can understand the extra caution