[14:33:02] Hi team! I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I've submitted a CR to our codesearch repo about a week ago (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/labs/codesearch/+/990709), and I was wondering if someone had time for a review. Thank you! [14:40:37] <_joe_> Amir1: ^^ [14:40:49] <_joe_> Amir1: also about our discussion last week :D [14:56:13] At meeting, can take a look a bit later [14:56:58] Thanks! [15:07:18] AFAICT google meet (and only google meet) has decided it can't talk to my mike and camera any more :( [15:08:56] jitsi (for example) works in the same browser profile [15:25:23] (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ [15:25:50] restarting my X session (and pulseaudio) hasn't fixed it [15:27:32] Emperor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0 [15:28:11] yeah, going to reboot in a bit if I can't clear it otherwise [15:30:48] Does anyone have a preference between Google Groups and lists.wikimedia.org for distribution lists? I'm doing an alerts review and mainly curious about the best way to handle auto-generated emails like alerts [15:43:43] reboot didn't fix it :( [15:55:54] Seems to relate only to my profile I use for work; if I make a new profile and sign into google there, it works. :swearing: [15:56:06] clearing google cookies doesn't help [16:09:15] gmeet will apply visual effects while still telling me I have my camera blocked [16:27:19] taavi: quick question about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T351354 (thx for your comment) do you know if there are any reasons to have them on public IPs? (eg. cloudvms connecting to the hosts outside of the LVS VIP) [16:29:32] XioNoX: as far as I'm aware all traffic from cloud vps is via the LVS IP [16:29:38] sweet [16:30:29] so yeah, they can be moved to private immediately, but I don't want to forget about cloud-private [16:30:57] cloudlb* [16:31:29] taavi: from my understanding of the flows and teams that own the servers it might make sens for them to live on the private prod realm (cc topranks) [16:37:39] Thanks XioNoX and taavi , will review y'all's updates [16:38:24] the fun part will be maintaining cluster quorum during the re-ip process ;) [16:39:16] inflatador: you cluster should be able to handle 1 node down, no? [16:40:14] XioNoX Y, might get dicey once we have 3 on one side and 3 on the other [16:40:22] side? [16:40:39] 3 on public IP and 3 on private [16:40:39] I think service wise it shouldn't matter [16:41:08] I don't think we'll lose data, but we might have a brief outage. Not a huge deal for this service anyway [16:46:50] inflatador: noted, happy to help with that re-IPing as it's quite worth it for our infra [16:50:01] XioNoX makes sense to me. Sooner is better for us too. I'll talk to my team and try and get a plan together. Will update ticket [17:16:21] topranks: The hosts in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T355437 will get their IPs changed? [17:17:09] marostegui: I don't think now, being in the same row they can keep the old IP for now [17:17:22] and be re-numbered later with the rest of the racks/row when ready [17:17:23] That'd be good yeah [17:18:02] but wait for official confirmation :) [17:19:10] I officially confirm they won't have their IPs changed [17:19:16] Thank you XioNoX [17:19:26] lol for the officially :D [17:20:05] I can also officially say that the IP change will come in a future time [17:39:16] many thanks to our official spokesman for the official confirmation :) [17:39:46] :) [17:43:03] Complaints should go to him too? [17:43:12] Or does he delegate those? [17:43:38] Only if you fill the official complain form [17:43:56] Send it to dev@null.org [17:44:38] I always do that and I never get a response claime [17:45:19] :( that's weird, must be the compression [17:45:29] or DKIM [17:54:49] please search exim logs on mx for a bit :p [18:15:09] mutante, eoghan: filed T355574 for the overall phabricator/tools python 2 problem. [18:15:09] T355574: Many (all?) of the phabricator/tools scripts are in Python 2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T355574 [18:16:38] 😅 [18:17:17] yea, the good part is the RT and Bugzilla import is not used anymore [18:17:22] it's just the dump [18:17:30] and that is just happening once per week or so [18:17:40] we can convert it [18:18:42] well, it would have been nice to import all the RT tickets that didn't get imported back then but I think that ship has sailed a while ago [18:19:43] export_trello.py pfff [18:20:44] patch for the dump scripts is already on the way [18:21:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in_Wikipedia mutante :) [18:22:16] yea, I am an inclusionist, that's why I edit Wikidata and not Wikipedia, dont have to always argue so much over notability, heh [18:23:01] the never-to-be-resolved debate over what a bug tracker is 'for' is the same argument :) [18:23:17] some RT tickets from the non-main "queue" were skipped years ago when Phab was created [18:23:36] but we are going to keep a static HTML of that [18:24:16] save to say we are not going to import from Bugzilla or export to Trello afaict :) [18:24:38] please dont ask for export to Asana.. /me hides [18:26:58] I can say one thing.. when Phabricator was introduced the main argument for it was.. that we finally stop using multiple task management systems across the org... [18:27:25] lol. [18:27:31] (sob.) [18:28:36] so it's always a bit sad when there is this tendency for that to happen again.. institutional knowledge [19:29:32] Obligatory https://xkcd.com/927/