[15:16:51] <andrewbogott>	 Amir1, herron, jhathaway, I'm replacing the puppetserver in the mailman vps project (T361371) and finding I can't ssh to mailman03.mailman.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud (which seems like the only host in that project that could actually be doing anything.) Is that project defunct? And/or is it OK if I reboot that host?
[15:16:51] <stashbot>	 T361371: Update mailman project puppetmaster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T361371
[15:19:26] <Reedy>	 andrewbogott: I'm guessing those would be the machines used for testing the mailman upgrade?
[15:19:38] <andrewbogott>	 no idea!
[15:20:04] <Reedy>	 CC legoktm ^^
[15:20:06] <andrewbogott>	 yes, looks like T257270
[15:20:06] <stashbot>	 T257270: Request creation of mailman VPS project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257270
[16:15:21] <elukey>	 hello folks!
[16:15:41] <elukey>	 I have a quick change for anybody that is interested in a nerd snipe for pki and cloud: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1015541
[16:15:57] <elukey>	 it is really not appealing I know, especially on a Friday
[16:16:21] <elukey>	 also open to other ideas 
[16:16:36] <elukey>	 but deployment-prep is half broken and this may help to unblock
[16:49:57] <andrewbogott>	 urandom: thcipriani and I are pondering the mystery of deployment-echostore02.deployment-prep.eqiad1.wikimedia.cloud which you see to have created back in the day. Any idea if that's still needed in beta?
[17:10:23] <thcipriani>	 oh...that boxen is running kask
[17:11:52] <thcipriani>	 I was looking for echostore (based on the box name) and all I came up with was the k8s thing: https://docker-registry.wikimedia.org/echoserver/tags/
[17:14:57] <thcipriani>	 maybe deployment-docker-kask01 would match the naming schema of the other k8s services deployed as docker in beta.
[17:31:07] <Amir1>	 andrewbogott: sorry I'm ooo but yeah, it was used for the mailman upgrade and we are planning to use it for the next upgrade (minor bumps, upgrade to bookworm in prod)
[17:34:19] <andrewbogott>	 Amir1: ok. At the moment mailman03 is broken and bereft for lack of an acmechief connection. Should I just delete it?
[17:34:52] <Amir1>	 yeah, the only thing it holds search indexes, the actual data is in the db
[17:37:50] <andrewbogott>	 great, I'll delete it. thanks.
[19:03:21] <urandom>	 andrewbogott: good question.  I don't need it (personally).  It was setup (by request) back in the day to mirror what was in production 
[19:06:14] <urandom>	 It's running docker and the same container we use in k8s, to glue mediawiki to Cassandra for timestamp storage (for echo)