[08:32:13] <Emperor>	 Folk who are going to FOSDEM might want to know about https://fosdem.org/2026/news/2026-01-11-travel-transportation-advisories/
[10:19:43] <_joe_>	 RhinosF1: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1226792/ is the main reason you're getting rate-limited
[10:19:51] <_joe_>	 sorry :(
[10:20:23] <_joe_>	 we'll fix that and then I'll reply to your email
[10:23:51] <effie>	 Emperor: this must be a no joke union, we have the worst railway service in the continent, and never had a 5 day strike 
[10:24:32] <Emperor>	 <troll>maybe they generally have a better rail service because they sometimes go on strike</troll>
[10:24:47] <RhinosF1>	 _joe_: thank you
[10:25:45] <_joe_>	 RhinosF1: so partly, our bad, but also, I might ask you to raise the metadata caching time; I didn't realize that basically api requests from QIC increase linearly with time :D
[10:26:27] <effie>	 Emperor: I strongly believe that the situation would have been different had the unions had been more aggressive. It has been evident for years that the govts do not care and wont care
[10:26:30] <_joe_>	 and thanks for being patient, we've had flocks of people asking for advice.
[10:27:55] <RhinosF1>	 _joe_: ye, Is there a recommended time? I think it defaults to 12 hours.
[10:28:31] <_joe_>	 yeah all the defaults are terrible :) I will provide some advice and then send a patch to change the defaults in both QIC and IC :P
[10:28:43] <_joe_>	 one week makes sense, imho
[10:29:28] <RhinosF1>	 Cool, myself or Skye will act as soon as we see your reply
[15:51:59] <sukhe>	 grafana is not happy
[15:52:01] <cdanis>	 is anyone else able to load graf--
[15:52:02] <cdanis>	 ah
[15:52:08] <sukhe>	 cdanis: :]
[15:52:14] <sukhe>	 will ping olly
[15:52:24] <volans>	 I had to re-login
[15:52:47] <sukhe>	 volans: not logged in here
[15:52:48] <volans>	 now is not loading
[15:53:13] <cdanis>	 grafana-next works in a pinch
[15:53:36] <sukhe>	 stealing
[15:53:52] <topranks>	 I just came here to ask if gra......
[15:54:12] <cdanis>	 ah
[15:54:17] <cdanis>	 the VM is ooming
[15:54:32] <cdanis>	 or rather, it's swap thrashing without ooming 🙃
[15:56:19] <hnowlan>	 we're investigating 
[15:56:32] <sukhe>	 ah thanks hnowlan <3
[16:04:47] <hnowlan>	 grafana is back
[16:05:33] <sukhe>	 thanks folks
[16:09:16] <cdanis>	 we might want to give those VMs a bit more RAM
[16:14:23] <Lucas_WMDE>	 now Phabricator is dropping out for me too :/
[16:15:52] <Lucas_WMDE>	 (okay, phabricator is back for me)
[17:04:40] <hnowlan>	 herr.on has upped the specs for the grafanas, but we've also started a conversation about better scaling grafana 
[18:07:15] <ChrisDobbins901_>	 ulsfo's just been repooled
[18:13:46] <_joe_>	 thanks ChrisDobbins901_