[11:51:23] <Ursium>	 Is there any wikimedia-led initiative on decentralizing itself. After all, it's not here to profit and make maximum returns, so - why not explore federation and similar concepts?
[11:52:21] <RhinosF1>	 Ursium: I'm not sure this is the best channel for that
[19:41:16] <legoktm>	 https://sfconservancy.org/news/2022/may/02/conservancy-launches-copyright-assignment-system/
[21:19:22] <Guest15>	 Hi, I would like to access https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/University_of_Cambridge_coat_of_arms.svg/9500px-University_of_Cambridge_coat_of_arms.svg.png but I cannot. It says "Error 429 Too Many Requests" at the bottom.
[21:20:38] <Reedy>	 Why do you need it in such a large format?
[21:20:54] <Izno>	 and why don't you want the svg format?
[21:21:09] <Guest15>	 I can't use svg for my purposes...
[21:22:08] <Guest15>	 In fact, it seems to only work for the specified widths from here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_Cambridge_coat_of_arms.svg
[21:22:25] <Reedy>	 Probably because they're already created and cached
[21:22:50] <Guest15>	 Does the link work for you?
[21:23:26] <Reedy>	 I can generate some new versions, if a little slow
[21:23:27] <Reedy>	 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/University_of_Cambridge_coat_of_arms.svg/2048px-University_of_Cambridge_coat_of_arms.svg.png
[21:23:44] <Guest15>	 It doesn't work for me and it says Error 429 at the bottom.
[21:24:01] <Reedy>	 Have you been trying too many times?
[21:24:07] <Guest15>	 Yeah...
[21:24:23] <Reedy>	 So it's your own fault :)
[21:24:35] <Guest15>	 But I tried again through Tor and it doesn't work either.
[21:24:47] <Guest15>	 There should be a different IP address through Tor.
[21:25:57] <Izno>	 Too many requests isn't "my IP made too many requests", it's "I received too many requests"
[21:26:05] <Izno>	 your IP*
[21:26:28] <Izno>	 especially for an uncached file size
[21:26:30] <Guest15>	 Oh. So I need to wait a few minutes?
[21:26:41] <Izno>	 that would be wise
[21:26:47] <Guest15>	 Okay, thanks!
[21:27:33] <Izno>	 ... smh
[21:38:24] <legoktm>	 Error 429 on a thumbnail actually means that thumbor couldn't create the thumbnail in time
[21:38:46] <Izno>	 oh well, worst comes to worst Guest returns
[21:38:51] <legoktm>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175512
[21:43:06] <AntiComposite>	 well, not quite
[21:43:19] <AntiComposite>	 429 could mean one of four different throttles
[21:43:28] <AntiComposite>	 one of them being the failure throttle
[21:52:13] <legoktm>	 AntiComposite: which one do you think it is in this case?
[21:52:49] <Reedy>	 while not rendered: refresh!
[21:52:59] <AntiComposite>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200866
[21:53:01] * Izno refreshes Reedy.
[21:55:00] <Bsadowski1>	 ooooh o: