[00:12:42] <AntiComposite>	 I mean, I hope the current CPTO would understand why this specific work is important, given how they helped build the Firefox feature 
[00:16:46] <bd808>	 we actually might have most of the bits that would be needed to make an OAuth replacement for the current setup if it is ok for the authn flow to require clicking a button/link to start it.
[03:10:03] <NovemLinguae>	 Are sprite sheets OK to use, or are they a code smell?
[03:34:27] <legoktm>	 we don't use sprites, I think we mostly use the OOUI icon packs
[03:34:51] <legoktm>	 NovemLinguae: I found https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Architecture#What_about_sprites%3F
[03:43:35] <NovemLinguae>	 Good info. Thanks
[04:57:39] <legoktm>	 I blogged about some of the recent Scribunto changes that landed: https://blog.legoktm.com/2022/10/09/a-short-scribunto-sprint.html
[05:34:59] <ori>	 very nice!
[08:46:44] <tgr_>	 <bd808> "we actually might have most of..." <- Wasn't Speed & Function working on that a while ago?
[09:06:46] <andre>	 Could someone with permissions please blank https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice ? (Coolest Tool Award nomination survey is closed.) Thanks a lot!
[09:30:09] <Reedy>	 andre: done
[09:30:16] <andre>	 Thank you!
[11:51:17] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; יולי2022; /* my unified login doesn't work any more */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=23926256&oldid=23919439&rcid=25215590
[14:57:17] <bd808>	 tgr_: I have heard small bits about S&F working on something authn related. The bits I heard were about experiments using some external IdP system as the source of authority and then Cindy's PluggableAuth on the wiki side.
[20:06:16] <taavi>	 as someone who's spent quite a lot of time over the last few years maintaining the current prod authentication stack (CentralAuth), I'd really appreciate if I was even told about projects planning to completely replace it..
[20:10:28] <MatmaRex>	 it's being replaced?
[20:15:37] <p858snake>	 If you are talking about IDM, its for LDAP accounts not central auth https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_IDM
[20:18:51] <taavi>	 no, I'm talking about the work bd808 mentioned above
[20:30:54] <bd808>	 taavi: I empathize and agree. That project is a wild experiment as far as I know. It certainly has not had any wide discussion.
[20:57:58] <legoktm>	 taavi: we've been asking for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T297791#7947385 to be made public for months now
[21:09:23] <mutante>	 probably the only way to move that forward is to ping on Slack
[21:11:39] <mutante>	 legoktm: taavi: done, I pinged on Slack (sigh, but it is what it is)
[21:16:12] <zabe>	 (Another annoying point. Due to the fact that much of WMF's communication has switched to Slack, volunteers are prevented from even reaching WMF employees in a useful way.)
[21:17:02] <bd808>	 I fear the only way that is ever going to change is if the community leads a loud revolt.
[21:22:59] <perryprog>	 SWITCH TO IRC
[21:23:01] <perryprog>	 like that?
[21:24:08] <mutante>	 I told Linh about this because "technical-decision-forum"
[22:17:24] <p858snake>	 taavi: Just wait till legoktm goes rouge and starts converting everything to shared user tables >.>