[00:08:05] <Werkmeister>	 Hi folks. Thanks to your suggestions I installed WSOAuth and obtained access rights as an OAuth consumer on the WMF authentication server. Problem is I get an error every time "Unable to initiate communication with OAuth provider." Triple-checked my credentials, what else could be wrong here?
[00:26:56] <Nemo_bis>	 Just noticed there's a Wikipedia logo in the frontpage of https://www.mailgun.com/ O_o
[02:00:24] <Reedy>	 FR?
[02:03:08] <Reedy>	 Hmm. No, recruiting..
[02:11:27] <AntiComposite>	 interesting
[03:26:25] <tgr_>	 <Werkmeister> "Hi folks. Thanks to your..." <- Your server can't make web requests for some reason (firewall? old cert bundle? maybe the OAuth server URL is misconfigured?).
[03:27:17] <tgr_>	 We should probably improve WSOAuth logging, it's not a terribly useful error message.
[03:29:23] <tgr_>	 <Reedy> "Hmm. No, recruiting.." <- It should say WMF not Wikipedia then. I see traces in Phabricator of Wikibase.cloud using (having used?) it, but nothing else.
[06:12:09] <Reedy>	 tgr_: Indeed... And is often the case, do they even have permission to use any of our logos to begin with...
[08:32:20] <Nemo_bis>	 I do hope that a company like Mailgun knows to have a signed contract with explicit permission to use the trademarks... But if someone doubts I guess legal-tm-vio@wikimedia.org is still open
[13:15:41] <Werkmeister>	 tgr_: Noted. I've used this as OAuth provider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:OAuth. Server can connect there from shell. I'll try simulating the OAuth query by hand and see what response I get.
[14:06:13] <sukhe>	 I /win 14
[17:13:10] <tgr_>	 Werkmeister: you can try connecting from `shell.php` (using something like `Http::get()`) and see if that works.
[17:19:38] <tgr_>	 <Nemo_bis> "I do hope that a company like..." <- I have seen companies listing Wikimedia without any kind of communication after providing some sort of internal service to the WMF so wouldn't be shocked if there wasn't any permission, much less a contract. I don't care enough to write emails about it, though.
[17:20:37] <tgr_>	 (Also, for all I know, they might have been used for the fundraiser at some point, in which case claiming that they have been used by Wikipedia would be reasonable IMO.)
[17:21:13] <bawolff>	 Although in the corporate world, its normally considered a no no to brag that "X uses us" without permission
[17:21:30] <bawolff>	 Like often those types of endorsements are part of negotiations for lower rates
[17:23:57] <ragesoss>	 is there a good way to programmatically get a list of all public Wikimedia wikis?
[17:27:09] <bawolff>	 ragesoss: There's the sitematrix api endpoint
[17:28:31] <bawolff>	 ragesoss: or just take some of the lists from https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/#dblist (I guess take the all list, and subtract the private and deleted lists)